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The 223 or the Birth of the Black Gun

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   Now in the current spirit of semi full Disclosure. I shall make no bones about the fact. That I do not like The M16 and its brood of children.
  Since I think that they look dreadful and give the Anti Gun Owners/ A whole lot of ammo to use against the 2nd Amendment.
  Also  these rifles do look very scary to such folks and other misinformed people. Especially when you see stuff like this below.
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Or this puppy too!
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Or stunts like this. Hint – “It is not helping the cause Folks!”
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  But I do understand why it’s so popular. Being that all the major powers have or are going over to the trend. As that it has been found that  plastic can be a good material for rifles.
  It is also tough enough to stand the average GI handling of it in the field.
  Just do not get me going on making something GI proof. Since the Gomer Pyle types are still well and alive in our Armed Forces. Just ask any Officer or NCO.
  Also & I am the first to freely admit it. It is a lot of fun to empty a full magazine at say a Watermelon like the Gunny does on TV.
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   Another reason is that also there are a lot of women in the military today. So with the smaller caliber it is easier to train them up with a lighter recoil rifle.*
   That & it is a proven fact. That you can carry more ammo than you can with a full bore round like the 308. Now this sounds silly to some folks.
  But just you wait until you have to go on a long walk with a lot of gear. After the first mile or so. You too will see the light. I sure as hell did!
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  But enough of my ranting, ravings and Old Guy stuff!
Bottom Line -I will take a bolt action rifle over one of the AR Family most of the time.   Except when the Zombies show up of course.
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  Now here is some more info about the 223. That frankly is  a lot better written outline than I could do.

.223 Remington

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.223 Remington
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A variety of .223 Remington cartridges and a .308 Winchester (right) for comparison. Bullets in .223 cartridges (left to right): Montana Gold 55 grain Full Metal Jacket, Sierra 55 grain Spitzer Boat Tail, Nosler/Winchester 55 grain Combined Technology, Hornady 60 grain V-MAX, Barnes 62 grain Tipped Triple-Shock X, Nosler 69 grain Hollow Point Boat Tail, Swift 75 grain Scirocco II.
Type Rifle
Place of origin United States
Production history
Designer Remington Arms
Designed 1962
Produced 1964–present
Variants .223 Ackley Improved, 5.56×45mm NATO
Specifications
Parent case .222 Remington
Case type Rimless, bottleneck
Bullet diameter 0.224 in (5.7 mm)
Neck diameter 0.253 in (6.4 mm)
Shoulder diameter 0.354 in (9.0 mm)
Base diameter 0.376 in (9.6 mm)
Rim diameter 0.378 in (9.6 mm)
Rim thickness 0.045 in (1.1 mm)
Case length 1.76 in (45 mm)
Overall length 2.26 in (57 mm)
Rifling twist 1 in 12 inch (military style rifles use 1:7 to 1:10 to stabilize longer bullets)
Primer type Small rifle
Maximum pressure (SAAMI) 55,000 psi (380 MPa)
Maximum pressure (CIP) 62,366 psi (430.00 MPa)
Maximum CUP 52000 CUP
Ballistic performance
Bullet mass/type Velocity Energy
36 gr (2 g) JHP 3,750 ft/s (1,140 m/s) 1,124 ft·lbf (1,524 J)
55 (3.5 g) Nosler ballistic tip 3,240 ft/s (990 m/s) 1,282 ft·lbf (1,738 J)
60 (3.9 g) Nosler partition 3,160 ft/s (960 m/s) 1,330 ft·lbf (1,800 J)
69 (4.48 g) BTHP 2,950 ft/s (900 m/s) 1,333 ft·lbf (1,807 J)
77 (5 g) BTHP 2,750 ft/s (840 m/s) 1,293 ft·lbf (1,753 J)
Test barrel length: 24 inches (61 cm)
Source(s): [1][2]

The .223 Remington (.223 Rem) is a rifle cartridge. The name is commonly pronounced either two-twenty-three or two-two-three Remington. It is commercially loaded with 0.224 inch (5.56 mm) diameter jacketed bullets, with weights ranging from 40 to 85 grains (2.6 to 5.8 g), though the most common loading by far is 55 grains (3.6 g). A 90 gr Sierra Matchking bullet is available for reloaders.[3]The .223 Rem was first offered to the civilian sporting market in December 1963 in the Remington 760 rifle. [4] In 1964 the .223 Rem cartridge was adopted for use in the Colt M16 rifle which became an alternate standard rifle of the U.S. Army. The military version of the cartridge uses a 55 gr full metal jacket boattail design and was designated M193. In 1980 NATO modified the .223 Remington into a new design which is designated 5.56×45mm NATO type SS109.[5]

History[edit]

From left: .222 Remington, .223 Remington and .222 Remington Magnum

1957: The development of the cartridge which eventually became the .223 Remington was intrinsically linked to the development of a new lightweight combat rifle. The cartridge and rifle were developed by Fairchild Industries, Remington Arms and several engineers working toward a goal developed by U.S. Continental Army Command (CONARC). Early development work began in 1957. A project to create a Small Caliber High Velocity (SCHV) firearm was created. Eugene Stoner of Armalite was invited to scale down the AR-10 (7.62 mm) design. Winchester was also invited to participate.[4] [5] The parameters requested by CONARC were:

  • .22 Caliber
  • Bullet exceeding supersonic speed at 500 yards [4] [5]
  • Rifle weight 6 lbs
  • Magazine capacity of 20 rounds
  • Select fire for both semi-automatic and fully automatic use
  • Penetration of US Steel helmet one side, at 500 yards
  • Penetration of .135″ steel plate at 500 yards
  • Accuracy and ballistics equal to M2 Ball ammunition (.30-06 M1 Garand)
  • Wounding ability equal to the M1 Carbine [5]

Springfield Armory‘s Earle Harvey lengthened the .222 Remington cartridge case to meet the requirements. It was then known as the .224 Springfield. Concurrently with the SCHV project Springfield armory is developing a 7.62 mm rifle. Harvey was ordered to cease all work on the SCHV to avoid any competition of resources.
Eugene Stoner of Armalite (a division of Fairchild Industries) had been advised to produce a scaled down version of the 7.62 mm AR-10 design. In May 1957 Stoner gave a live fire demonstration of the prototype of the AR-15 for General Wyman. As a result, CONARC ordered rifles to test. Stoner and Sierra Bullet’s Frank Snow began work on the .222 Remington cartridge. Using a ballistic calculator they determined that a 55 grain bullet would have to be fired at 3,300fps to achieve the 500 yard performance necessary.[5]
Robert Hutton (Technical Editor of Guns and Ammo Magazine) started development of a powder load to reach the 3,300 fps goal. He used DuPont IMR4198, IMR3031 and an Olin Powder to work up loads. Testing was done with a Remington 722 rifle with a 22″ Apex Barrel. During a public demonstration the round successfully penetrated the US steel helmet as required. But testing showed chamber pressures to be excessively high.[4][5]
Stoner contacted both Winchester and Remington about increasing the case capacity. Remington created a larger cartridge called the .222 Special. This cartridge is loaded with DuPont IMR4475 powder.[5]
1958: During parallel testing of the T44E4 (future M14) and the AR-15 the T44E4 experienced 16 failures per 1,000 rounds fired compared to 6.1 for the AR-15.[5]
1959: Because of several different .222 caliber cartridges which were being developed for the SCHV project the 222 Special was renamed .223 Remington. In May of that year a report was produced stating that 5 to 7 man squads armed with AR-15 rifles have a higher hit probability than 11 man squads armed with the M-14 rifle. At a 4th of July picnic Air Force General Curtis Le May tested the AR-15 and was very impressed with it. He ordered a number of them to replace M2 carbines that were in use by the Air Force. In November of that year testing at Aberdeen Proving Ground showed the AR-15 failure rate had declined to 2.5/1,000 resulting in the AR-15 being approved for Air Force Trials.[5]
In 1961 a marksmanship testing compared the AR-15 and M-14. 43 % of AR-15 shooters achieved Expert while only 22 % of M-14 rifle shooters did. General Le May ordered 80,000 rifles.[5]
1962: In the spring of 1962 Remington submitted the specifications of the .223 Remington to the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute (SAAMI). In July operational testing ended with a recommendation for adoption of the AR-15 rifle chambered in .223 Remington.[5]
1963: September the .223 Remington cartridge was officially accepted and named “Cartridge, 5.56 mm Ball, M193.” The specification included a Remington-designed bullet and the use of IMR4475 Powder which resulted in a muzzle velocity of 3,250 feet per second and a chamber pressure of 52,000psi.[5] The .223 Remington was ballistically between the .222 Remington and the .222 Remington Magnum. It emerged from the .224 Springfield. The popularity of .223 Remington was so great that in the US it virtually eliminated the chambering of new firearms in .222 Remington and .222 Remington Magnum which included both semi-automatic and bolt (manual) action firearms. Outside the US and in areas in Europe where military chamberings are restricted, the .222 Remington remained popular, filling the same market niche.

Cartridge dimensions[edit]

The .223 Remington has 28.8 grains (1.87 ml H2O) cartridge case capacity.[6]
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.223 Remington maximum C.I.P. cartridge dimensions. All sizes in millimeters (mm).[7]
Americans would define the shoulder angle at alpha/2 = 23 degrees. The common rifling twist rate for this cartridge is 305 mm (1 in 12 in), 6 grooves, Ø lands = 5.56 millimetres (0.219 in), Ø grooves = 5.69 millimetres (0.224 in), land width = 1.88 millimetres (0.074 in) and the primer type is small rifle.
According to the official C.I.P. (Commission Internationale Permanente pour l’Epreuve des Armes à Feu Portatives) rulings the .223 Remington can handle up to 430.00 MPa (62,366 psi) Pmax piezo pressure. In C.I.P. regulated countries every rifle cartridge combo has to be proofed at 125% of this maximum C.I.P. pressure to certify for sale to consumers.[8] This means that .223 Remington chambered arms in C.I.P. regulated countries are currently (2016) proof tested at 537.50 MPa (77,958 psi) PE piezo pressure. This is equal to the NATO maximum service pressure guideline for the 5.56×45mm NATOcartridge.
The SAAMI pressure limit for the .223 Remington is set at 379.212 MPa (55,000 psi), piezo pressure.[9][10] Remington submitted .223 Remengton specifications to SAAMI in 1964.[5] The original diagrams use English Inch measurements.

Rifling in .223 Remington[edit]

Rifling is expressed as a ratio. A 1 in 12″ ratio means that rifling is cut so that the bullet rotates 360° after having traveled 12″. This is expressed as 1:12 spoken as 1 in 12 inches. Rifling must match the bullet design (length, weight and projectile shape) which a shooter intends to use in order to maintain accuracy.
The .223 Remington is one of the most common rifle cartridges in use in the United States, being widely used in two types of rifles:

The Sturm, Ruger & Co. AR-556 has rifling at 1:8. Their Mini-14 rifles have a rate of 1:9. Ruger’s American Rifle Bolt Action is also in 1:8.[11] Smith and Wesson in their M&P15 also uses 1:7.[12] The buyer must decide what the purpose of the rifle is and what weight bullets will be used before purchasing a rifle so that the correct rifling and chamber is used in the construction. The 5.56 mm NATO chamber will shoot either 5.56 mm NATO or .223 Rem. and is used by most makers of complete rifles and components.
Many AR (Armalite) type rifles use 1:9 which is suitable for bullets up to 69 grains or 4.5 grams or 1:7 which is suitable for bullets up to 85 grains or 5.5 grams. Many AR rifle owners choose to build their own rifles which is facilitated by a huge variety of barrels, and other components. The custom built AR may have a barrel from 7.5″ (which is classed as a Pistol) to as long as 24″ used in Varmint rifles primarily, often with Wylde or Noveske chambering. US AR builders tend to follow the same trend as the US military in building rifles with Picatinny rails that support many accessories.[13]

Cartridge case[edit]

The external dimensional specifications of .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO brass cases are identical. The cases tend to have similar case capacity when measured, with variations chiefly due to brand, not 5.56 vs .223 designation. The result of this is that there is no such thing as “5.56 brass” or “.223 brass”, the differences in the cartridges lie in powder loads which are affected by variations in case capacity. Brass for the 5.56 mm tends to be thicker. If handloaded, care must be taken to look for pressure signs as 5.56 mm cases may produce higher pressures with the same type of powder and bullet as compared to .223 Rem cases. Case capacities have been observed to vary by as much as 2.6 grains. Sierra provides separate loading sections for .223 Rem and 5.56 mm NATO and also recommends different loads for bolt action rifles as compared to semi-automatic rifles.[14][15]

.223 Remington vs. 5.56×45mm NATO Chambers[edit]

The .223 Remington and 5.56×45mm NATO barrel chamberings are dissimilar.[16] While the cartridges are identical other than powder load, bullet weight, and chamber pressure, a significant difference is in barrel of the rifle to be used, not in the cartridge. The chamber leade (throating in the USA) of the barrels of these rifles differ between designs.
The leade is the distance from the projectile while seated in the case to the rifling, which is typically shorter in .223 Remington commercial chambers. Because of this, a cartridge loaded to generate 5.56 × 45 mm NATO pressures in a 5.56 × 45 mm NATO chamber may develop pressures that exceed SAAMI limits for .223 Remington when fired from a short-leade .223 Remington chamber. See the section on .223 Remington#Pressure
The throating issue exists because in the USA it has been traditional to have short chambers so that the bullet is being engraved at the moment of insertion. European practice has more of a forcing cone construction which can, by itself, allow significantly higher chamber pressure. All Sig-Sauer handguns (for example) have European throating and all are certified to fire +P ammunition. Short throating and unnoticed bullet setback can easily increase chamber pressures by more than 10,000 psi.
It has been observed that 5.56 × 45 mm NATO ammunition is not as accurate as .223 Remington in many of the AR type rifles extant even with the same bullet weight. A solution to the problem has been developed by Bill Wylde and it bears his name. .223 Wylde is not a cartridge, it is a barrel chamber specification – with the external dimensions and lead angle as found in the military 5.56 × 45 mm NATO cartridge and the 0.224 inch freebore diameter as found in the civilian SAAMI .223 Remington cartridge – that was designed to increase the accuracy of 5.56×45mm NATO ammunition to that of .223 Remington.[17] The Noveske company also has a chamber design which increases 5.56mm NATO accuracy.[18]

Pressure[edit]

Remington submitted the specifications for .223 Remington cartridge in 1964 to SAAMI. The original pressure for the .223 Rem was 52,000 psi with DuPont IMR Powder. The current pressure of 55,000 psi (379 MPa) resulted from the change from IMR to Olin Ball powder. [5] The official name for .223 Remington in the US Army is Cartridge 5.56 x 45mm Ball, M193. If a 5.56×45 mm NATO cartridge is loaded into a chamber intended to use .223 Remington the bullet will be in contact with the rifling and the forcing cone is very tight. This generates a much higher pressure than .223 chambers are designed for.[19] NATO chose a 178 mm (1-in-7″) rifling twist rate for the 5.56×45mm NATO chambering. The SS109/M855 5.56×45mm NATO ball cartridge requires a 228 mm (1-in-9″) twist rate, while adequately stabilizing the longer NATO L110/M856 5.56×45mm NATO tracer projectile requires an even faster 178 mm (1-in-7″) twist rate.[5]
The table contains some estimated pressures based on normal proofing practice and on the known increases in pressure caused by bullet setback (which is a similar occurrence with regard to pressure). The Proof pressure of M197 is 70,000 psi. [20]
Here is a table showing the differences in nomenclature, rifling, throating, normal, maximum and safe pressures:[5][4]

Cartridge US Designation NATO Designation Bullet Rifling Throat Pressure in NATO Chamber in .223 SAAMI Chamber Safe Sustained
.223 Remington .223 Rem 55gr FMJBT 1:14 tight 52,000 psi (359 MPa) 52,000 psi (359 MPa) Yes
.223 Remington M193 5.56 × 45 mm 55gr FMJBT 1:12 tight 55,000 psi (379 MPa) 55,000 psi (379 MPa) Yes
.223 Remington M197 C10524197-56-2 1:12 tight 70,000 psi (483 MPa) 70,000 psi (483 MPa) One time only
5.56×45 mm NATO M855 SS109 62 gr Ball 1:7 long 62,366 psi (430 MPa) EPVAT over 70,000 psi (483 MPa) No
5.56×45 mm NATO M856 L110 77gr Tracer 1:7 long 62,366 psi (430 MPa) EPVAT over 70,000 psi (483 MPa) No
5.56×45 mm NATO M857 SS111 Tungsten Carbide 1:7 long 62,366 psi (430 MPa) EPVAT over 70,000 psi (483 MPa) No
5.56×45 mm NATO Proof Proof unknown 1:7 long 77,958 psi (538 MPa) EPVAT 82,250 psi (567 MPa) estimated No

Beside the NATO EPVAT testing pressure testing protocols the other employed peak pressure measurement methodology or methodologies to correlate this table remain unknown.

Effects of barrel length on velocity[edit]

Barrel length helps determine a specific cartridge’s muzzle velocity. A longer barrel will typically yield a greater muzzle velocity, while a short barrel will yield a lower one. The first AR-15 rifles used a barrel length of 20″. In the case of the .223 Rem (M193) ammunition loses or gains approximately 25.7 feet-per-second for each inch of barrel length, while 5.56 x 45 mm NATO (M855) loses or gains 30.3 feet-per-second per inch of barrel length.[21]

Related cartridges[edit]

P.O. Ackley created an improved version of this cartridge, called the .223 Ackley Improved.[22] It has the straight sides and steep shoulder, typical of the Ackley design improvements, yielding about 5 % extra case volume. This, in turn, provides longer case life, less stretching, and up to 140 ft/s (43 m/s) faster velocities.[23]
Wildcat cartridge developers have for a long time necked this cartridge up to create the 6 mm/223 or 6 × 45 mm. At one time this round was very popular for varmint hunting and competition, but has been replaced by current popular competition cartridges using short, fat cases, such as the 6 mm PPC and the 6mm Norma BR.[citation needed]
The Thompson/Center Ugalde family of wildcat cartridges are also made by necking up .223 Remington cases, for use in the Thompson/Center Contender target pistol.[citation needed]

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One of the Best Businesses that I have ever dealt with!

 
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Now I have been now to quite a few Gun Shops & Gun Dealers in my life so far.
Where I have seen the gambit run from really piss poor to fair or average.
But then you get to Lock Stock & Barrel Investment over in Simi Valley California.
Which in my humble opinion is light years away from the rest of the Herd. (This means in English – The Best so far)
This place of Business also has a very unique and so far highly successful Business Model.
In that it this is NOT your traditional kind of a gun shop.
Instead they take in your guns that are no longer wanted. They then put the gun up for sale by open auction on the Internet.
Now I have been told by them. That I was one of the 1st customers that has done business with them. When they had just opened up almost 6 years ago.
So when I walked into the place for the first time. To do my pick up and to pay for it. I was very surprised by a lot of thing all at the same time.
Here are some of the things that I noticed about this outfit over the years.
Everyone there was very friendly & Helpful
The Place was clean and well organized
These Guys are fair, honest and some of the most     honorable folks that I have ever met.
The Owner and his staff really knew their stuff & had their      Sh*t together
They offered a clear, concise & fair deal.*
They have a good inventory of stuff at fair prices.                   (I bought a used but pristine holster for a S&W Model 25 for $20)
BUT their business is that of selling firearms by Auction over the internet. They do not sell guns at the store! As it is internet sales only!
They also do the shipping and handling of the paper work.    (FFL etc)
They also are constantly having more & different kinds of Firearms than I have ever seen outside of a Museum.
The only guns that they do not sell are AR-15 &Ak-47 Types
Also I always like to look at their site. On the 1st & 3rd Monday at the new auction when they put up the new guns for sale.
Since you never know as what is going to come up for sale.
I have not lost any money on any of the guns that I have sold with them.
So you might want to just check these guys out one of these days.
 
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* You bring in your gun or if you are in the General area near Simi Valley. They will come and pick it up. They then will post its pictures on the two Gun Auction sites on the Internet.
Here below is their complete Address and point of contact

Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments

2050 Donville Ave. • Simi Valley, CA 93065 • (805) 285-0715

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What the Other (Rich) Half take to the Field

Now here below is what I call a High End Custom Bolt Action Rifles.
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It’s probably from Purdey or Holland & Holland. Where you place your order and in a couple of years. You then will hopefully get it.
(I also have been told that the waiting list is very long. That & it has some very distinguished names on it. But the Staff is way too discrete to say who.)
 
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But first, It is only after you put down several thousand British pounds. (They take Credit Cards by the way)
That the process is started. When you get to go thru the catalog to see what you want on it.
The customer is then gotten measured for it. (Just like a Saville Suit) With the Head Clerk asking a lot of very good questions on what the Gentleman wants & needs are.
This place is also where the idea of High End European Craftsman ship is still alive & well. (The Gunsmiths there actually wear ties while working on their projrcts)
So as you can plainly see, It is a long ways from some of the other stuff. That you see being sold at most gun shops today.
I myself would love to have one of these someday. But I just never seem to get the right numbers on the Lottery for some reason.
But looking is free & one can still dream of having a couple in the Old Gun Safe. Someday!
 
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Below also is a highly customized Pre-64 Winchester. As you can see its no slouch either.
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Remington Mod. 721 Rifle

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Remington Model 721

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Remington 721, 722, & 725
Type Rifle
Place of origin United States
Production history
Designer Mike Walker & Homer W. Young
Manufacturer Remington Arms
Produced 1948–1962
No. built
  • Model 721 & 722 – ~118,000
  • Model 725 – ~17,000
Variants 722, 725
Specifications
Cartridge
721 Calibers:
722 Calibers:
725 Calibers:
Action Bolt actionrotating bolt with 2 lugs
Feed system Internal box magazine
Sights Iron Sights with scope mount holes

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The Model 721, 722, and 725 are bolt-action firearmsmanufactured by Remington Arms from 1948 through 1962. They replaced the earlier Model 30 and abortive Model 720. Though produced in relatively small numbers compared to the Winchester Model 70, the Remington model 721 series served as the basis for the highly successful Model 700 series of rifles.

History[edit]

The Remington Model 721 was born out of Remington’s experience building martial arms during the Second World War. Because of the need to make numerous arms cheaply, manufacturing technology had advanced to a point where production of pre-war models had become too expensive. The Model 720, an improved Model 30, had been designed as the flagship bolt-action rifle for Remington, however production had halted during the war. Remington had a choice of resuming production of an expensive rifle or simplifying the design for mass economical production. They chose a redesign.

Design details[edit]

When compared to the Mauser 98 action, the Remington introduced several features meant to decrease production time and cost as well as increase the accuracy potential.[1] The first was a redesign of the receiver from a billet-machined structure to a round profile. The round receiver can be produced on a lathe rather than requiring a mill. The recoil lug was a simple plate of steel sandwiched between the barrel and receiver.
The bolt was redesigned and made from multiple pieces. The large claw extractor was eliminated in favor of a small, but effective part mounted in a newly recessed bolt face. The ejector was now a plunger on the bolt face rather than a blade mounted in the receiver. The safety was simplified and a new trigger mechanism was fitted.

Variants[edit]

The Model 722 was a short-action version designed for shorter cartridges. The Model 725 was a deluxe version with a larger, Model-30 style safety and Monte Carlo stock. All rifles were available in various grades and calibers.
721A Standard grade
721BDL Deluxe grade
722A Standard grade
722BDL Deluxe grade
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Maybe some Folks should not be near Fire Arms

I stole this from Knuckledragin My Life Away
Enjoy!
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THe Current Queen of England and Guns

 
As you can see also that the Current Queen and her family know their away around a guns. (She was in the British Army during WWII)

That and like the rest of the British Aristicracy / Rich Folks. They are really  into hunting and not just with Cameras.
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It must of been nice to have your own hunting lodge I mean Empire!
I just could not resist it, But I do not think that this one is real by the way!
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Thanks for spending your time on this!
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Queen Victoria & A Hell of a nice gift of a Gun!

All I can say is “That sure is a Nice Gift from the Old Girl!”

For sale, gun Queen Victoria gave her servant rumoured to be her lover: A Double-barrelled rifle given to John Brown as a Christmas gift in 1873 set to fetch £40,000

  • The monarch gave the deer-stalking rifle to Brown at Christmas 1873
  • Queen turned to the attendant for counsel after husband’s death in 1861
  • Gun was kept in late American industrialist Clay Bedford’s collection 
  • Rifle will be sold in London and auctioneers call the item ‘very desirable’ 

An antique rifle that was a gift from Queen Victoria to a manservant who was rumoured to have been her lover is to be sold at auction

An antique rifle that was a gift from Queen Victoria to a manservant who was rumoured to have been her lover is to be sold at auction

The relationship infuriated the Queen’s eldest son, Edward VII, who was said to have once arranged for a boxer to give him a thrashing.

The affair was also the subject of the 1997 Judi Dench film Mrs Brown, which focused on their controversial relationship.

According to experts the weapon was the best that money could buy at the time and was engraved with his name at her behest.

The gift came 18 months after Brown had saved the Queen from a potential assassination attempt when the nephew of an Irish MP rushed her open carriage with an unloaded pistol prompting Brown to grab hold of him.Share

After Brown’s death in 1883 the gun was acquired by the late American industrialist Clay Bedford and it has been in his collection ever since.

The deer-stalking rifle was displayed at the London Metropolitan Museum of Art for a firearms exhibition in 1971. It is now being sold at auction in London.

Patrick Hawes, a rifle specialist at auctioneers Bonhams, said: ‘The rifle is unique in many ways and has a direct association with Queen Victoria which makes it a very desirable item.

‘There is no doubt that it was the best quality and the best rifle that money could buy at the time.

‘We believe this is the first time it is being sold at auction. It is in a very good condition and is usable. It doesn’t appear to have had a lot of use.’

The monarch (right) had turned to trusted attendant Brown (left) for counsel after the death of her husband, Prince Albert in 1861, and it was suggested they were romantically involved

The monarch (right) had turned to trusted attendant Brown (left) for counsel after the death of her husband, Prince Albert in 1861, and it was suggested they were romantically involved

Brown, from Aberdeenshire, worked as an outdoor servant at Balmoral Castle in the mid 18th century.

He became the pastoral aide to Victoria and Albert, and in 1854 Victoria wrote that Brown ‘takes the most wonderful care of me… and it is quite a sorrow to leave him behind’.

The rifle, made by royal gunmaker Alexander Henry of Edinburgh, comes in its original pig-skinned lined brass-mounted oak and leather case with nearly all the accessories.

The exterior of the lid is stamped in gilt letters ‘J. Brown Esq. H.M.P. Attendant, Balmoral’. It is being sold on May 12.

Auctioneers at Bonhams say that it is the best quality and the best rifle that money could buy at the time

Auctioneers at Bonhams say that it is the best quality and the best rifle that money could buy at the time

The exterior of the lid is stamped in gilt letters 'J. Brown Esq. H.M.P. Attendant, Balmoral'. It is being sold on May 12

The exterior of the lid is stamped in gilt letters ‘J. Brown Esq. H.M.P. Attendant, Balmoral’. It is being sold on May 12

 

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Guns & The Media

 
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One  of the things that you have to remember about the Media. Is this, as it is a big dumb dog that is always hungry for information. Another tidbit that I have learned is that it usually is a lazy bunch too.

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   Especially if you watch it on say Political or Business matters. I myself found this out about them when down at my School District. As They always love press releases. Since that cuts down on their work a lot.
  Because real journalism is a lot of hard work. So like a lot of folks. They will take the path of least resistance. Especially since they are always under the gun with their deadlines.
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  Another thing to remember about the so called “4th branch of Government”. Is that the motto of “If it burns or bleeds, then it leads”.
Since this is what sells their service.
  So that is why the Media is always going on about how terrible things are. Since this is how they get your attention. This also why they seem to want you to be always alert to this problem or other.
  This is why I think that Americans have lost a lot of their confidence and courage. Because of this 24/7 news coverage that is constantly barraging the world. With a loy of tragedy and gore.
  I also think this is why a lot of folks don’t even watch the news any more or trust the Media.
  NOW LET US GET TO THE GUNS PART OF THE STORY
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  Now I make it a firm personal policy of mine to avoid the Press like a I would with a $2 Hooker. Its is just not worth it.
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  Since it seems that they almost always get the story wrong one way or another. Now to be fair. Some of the Reporters try to get the story right. But we all have played the game of Telephone at school one time or another.
  This is when. The Teacher has whispered a message to one student  and then had the entire class whisper it thru the whole class. It always amazed me on how things get twisted up at the end.
  It is the same story with these folks. Especially when you get folks that have an agenda or political bent. And a lot of them do. As they seriously think that they are a major player and a lot of them just love it too.
  So most of the time, Just remember the Golden Rule. “Silence can be Golden at times. Because what you can say will be used against you.”
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Some advice if you are going to Jail!

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Old Joke – What is a Conservative ? A Liberal who got mugged’
What is a Liberal? A Conservative that went to jail.

Now hopefully you will never have to use this information. But as one never really knows what is coming down the pike toward them. You might want to read this.

  Let me begin by saying up front and center. That I am not a cop or a lawyer or something like that. This is just what I have seen as a Juvenile Hall Court School Teacher with over 20 years of experience.
  Now God Forbid but somehow you have gotten busted for something serious.
  Again let us hope that a gun is not involved with it. As this is as serious as a heart attack.
(I have had a couple of them – Heart attacks- myself by the way)
  While this is happening to you. You are going to have a flood of emotions. If you are smart. Then you will do your best to control them and pay attention to what is happening.
Here is my advice for what it is worth to you.
#1 and this is most important to remember!
  The Cops are NOT your friend at this time!
  So be polite and obey all their orders.
  Do not give them a hard time. As they can & will kick your ass into the next century.
  When they show up. If you have to talk at all. Tell they that you respect them & that they get a bad Reputation from the Media.
  But then say I want a lawyer and then STFU! Because they are going to record everything that you say or do. Which they will then try and use against you.
As they are very highly trained in making folks talk. They will play on your respect for authority and the urge to talk your way out of trouble.
  When you go to the Station House or Barracks. Where they are going to strip search you from head to toe.
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  Literally, as you would be amazed at what stuff Folks try and smuggle in that they have put up their rectum.
  So do not resist this if you can at all costs. As you do not want any more bad paper being written up on you.
  Then you will be finger printed and photographed.
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Anybody look familiar to you?
  Then it depends on what jail you are in but you will have all your personals taken from you. You will probably will get most of it back. But do not count on getting any cash back. Since how do you prove that it is yours?
  Then comes you either have your clothes taken from you or not. Instead you will get some sort of  loud colored jumper. Or not.
  Sooner or later you will be given one phone call unless you are an Asshole. If you do call I highly sugguest that you call the local Bail Bondsman.
  Now the Bonds man is going to cost you a lot. But they also can hopefully help you a lot to get out. Then you will have time to get your defense & affairs in order.
  But generally you are most probably going to spend the night in a holding cell. Until you see the Judge. Who is going to decide what to do with you.
  Now here is some advice while you are locked up.
TRUST NOBODY! There are a lot of informers & trustees that will be put in your cell with you. So that the state can get more information on you. So just do not say a word to any one if you can help it.
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Be polite but firm. “Hey man my lawyer told me to talk to no one. Its nothing personal its just business!”
  AGAIN DO NOT TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT WHY YOU ARE HERE UNLESS IT IS YOUR LAWYER!
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  Do not drop the soap! It is really true about Male Rape in prison. All your cellmates are generally some real hard nose and bad folks. Do NOT Trust them and avoid them if possible.
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  The Guards also do not care and they are also not your friends. Since they also are serving time also until they get their pensions. DO NOT TALK TO THEM IF YOU CAN HELP IT!
  They just want a nice quiet time and will do anything for it. They are not there for your protection.
In closing, I hope that you never have to use this info! Good Luck!
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Some other Ideas about Shooting Folks or not!

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Now I have a couple of thoughts on this grisley issue. It seems to me from what that I have see and read from a lot of folks. There seems to be a lot of folks who actually seem to want to shoot somebody. You know who I am talking about right?

  Like at the Gunshows or on TV that keep stressing on how to use tactical methods and combat situations. Or some of those very scary looking and talking dudes at the local Gun Show.
 I just do not get it myself. But if the fantasy helps you sleep well at night. Then so be it.
  Me? I am one of those folks. Who has seen enough real violence at first hand. That if I never have to do it or see again. That would be just fine by me.
  Now let us move one to the real world. Here are a few ideas on how to avoid this problem.
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1. Do not go down to the bad part of town. Especially at night!
2. Avoid certain types of folks. Like Bikers, Drug Dealers, Cops, Fighting Drunks and stupid, lazy & crazy folks. This seems to me at least to be a good idea.
3. Avoid the Bar scene especially the rougher ones. We all know where those are right? I mean hey! Get with the here & now. Computer dating is the way to go!
4. Going to the ATM in the middle of the night. Or flashing a lot of cash!
     Are you crazy! Most folks are either getting ready to go to bed or a    sleep.
   (“Hey Old Buddy! I will be there in the first thing in the AM to bail you
      out okay? Good Night!”)
5. Going to the Liquor Store or 7-11 during the night.
  “Honey you need diapers? Okay here use this old T Shirt of mine. I will
    go get some more in the AM.”
6. Avoid Riots! If you get caught up in one. Then get the hell out of there.
    As there are very few causes worth dying for. That and 5 years from
    now. That & NO BODY WILL REMEMBER YOU OR CARE EITHER !
  Now let us go to some of the favorite scenerios of the Gun Advertisers
  Its late at night! You hear a noise and you go check it out with your gun in your hand to save & protect your family.
  Sorry Rambo! But its either your kid trying to sneak out or in. Or it is the cat.
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  So I am willing to bet a lot of cash. That I think your spouse and or the Cops are not going to be too thrilled about that either. Jail by the way is not fun!
   Here is a little something else that my Students / Thugs taught me. When I was teaching in Juvenile Hall.
***Most criminals break into your house during day time. When everyone is at work or school. Best thing to do is get a dog instead.  My Former Students also really do not want to get shot either!****
  Or how about the other one that has been around since the Back Yard Bomb Shelter Scare / Scam of the 1950’s. (Which you have turned into a wine cellar years ago.)
  Something Bad / Horrible has happened!!! (Pick your choice of Nuclear War / Winter, Aliens from Space or Mecca, Terrorist Attack,  Climate Change, EMP, Plague or what have you.)  What ever, it is going to be Bloody Awful!
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ARE YOU READY!?!
  Me? Nah!
  If things are going to get that bad. Hey I would of left here a long time ago with my family. Why are you still here?
   Because if the Big one is going off. Then I am going be to run right toward the cloud. Because I am sure as Hell is not fun. Do not want to live in another Dark Age.
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Bottom Line – Fear is almost as good as sex when it comes to selling stuff. Me?  I am going to spend my cash on other things, That and have as much fun as I still can.
Maybe you might think about that also!
PS This does not mean that I will have no problem with introducing you to my “little friend of mine”.
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What so ever though if someone messes with me,  my family, friends or my stuff.
Then its “Gee Officer! I just do not know what happened! Better talk to my Lawyer and we will figure this one out Okay?”
That and this other nugget of advice, “Hey Officer, can you double lock the handcuffs pretty please?  That & can I be put in solitary when we get to the Station? “