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Tech Wisdom: Downloading To top off, or not to top off: That is the question. by GEORGE HARRIS

The answer to the age-old question of whether or not to top off a magazine to maximize the number of on-board rounds depends on the firearm in question. Even within the same model, individual examples can yield different conclusions.

I just picked up a previously owned SIG Sauer P320 full-size 9 mm to use as a duty gun in my capacity as a reserve police officer in my county. It came with five magazines, and at a good price. When I first shot the pistol, I was quite pleased with the sights, trigger pull and accuracy.

In the police academy, we were taught to load our duty pistols to maximum capacity—referred to as topping off—as a matter of practice and common sense. This included having the magazine full, with a round in the chamber as well.

My problem arose when I loaded my magazines to their 17-round capacity and tried to seat them into the pistol after chambering a cartridge to maximize the gun’s capacity. I had to pound each magazine’s baseplate to get them to stay in the gun, and the two newest ones would not stay locked in place much of the time even with that extra effort. With the other magazines, when they locked in place, the gun would short-cycle after the first round and fail to chamber the next round, consistently moving only partially forward.

In the law enforcement community, our guns have to work first time, every time to stay alive.

What is the problem with this gun? Can it be fixed to make it more reliable, or do I go get my money back and buy something else?

R.K. Tidioute, PA


The SIG Sauer P320 chambered in 9 mm is a solid and reliable-shooting pistol in my experience. That said, while you can get 17 rounds in many of its magazines, there is no space available after the last round has been inserted into the magazine for the ammunition stack to compress sufficiently, enabling the magazine to seat and lock into the magazine well.

The top round in a loaded magazine contacts the bottom of the slide when the slide is forward and the magazine is fully inserted into the magazine well of a semi-automatic pistol. Although there is normally friction on the bottom of the slide from contact with the top cartridge in the magazine, it has minimal effect on the movement of the slide if the ammunition stack can compress slightly back into the magazine body against the magazine spring. If there is no room for the ammunition stack to compress, the friction resistance of the top cartridge in the seated magazine is too great to allow the slide to cycle properly, which causes the phenomenon that you are experiencing with the slide failing to fully cycle.

I would first suggest that you load your magazines to their capacity of 17 rounds, and then apply pressure to the top cartridge with your thumb. The cartridge should move against the magazine spring until it is visibly clear of all contact with the feed lips at the top of the magazine. This small space is necessary for the magazine to seat properly in the magazine well, and also for the gun to cycle properly and shoot reliably.

If you download your magazines to 16 rounds, I suspect your gun will exhibit the reliability you expect from it.

This phenomenon is not only limited to pistols, but should also be considered when loading and topping off any firearm utilizing a spring-loaded, box-type magazine. For example, it is a somewhat common practice to download an AR-15-style rifle magazine (particularly military-surplus magazines) from 30 rounds to 28 rounds to enhance reliability by ensuring the magazine will seat properly in the magazine well and the top rounds in the magazine will flow through the gun without causing any restriction or stoppage.

As always, I would encourage you to voice your concerns to the folks at the SIG Sauer Customer Service department and see what they have to say about the situation you are experiencing. The true complexion of any company can be seen by the actions of its Customer Service personnel to solve a customer’s problems. The manufacturer’s staff is top notch and will undoubtedly help you get to the bottom of the problem you are experiencing.

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Bucket of Bucks Legal Fights Cost Money … Lots of It! By Dave Workman

Many years ago, at my local gun club, we would include in the monthly meeting the passing around of a small pail. Everybody kicked in a dollar or two — or maybe 10 — and we called it the “Bucket of Bucks,” with the money going to the National Rifle Association.

2A Defense can take many different approaches, big or small, and this one can be one of the best if it is done properly.

Two Things

 

There are two principles in life beyond death and taxes — lawsuits cost money, and lots of it. This year’s legislative sessions in many states produced the kind of laws that beg to be challenged, and good attorneys do not work for free.

Now is a good time for local gun clubs, gun show operators or anyone conducting a shooting match or some other function to help raise these important dollars. I once saw a guy throw in a crisp $100 bill, turn quickly around and disappear into the crowd.

Funds collected in such a manner can be consolidated and sent every couple of months to where they will do the most good.

It actually boils down to simple economics. For the price of a six-pack, you can kick in a few bucks to help defend your Second Amendment rights. Instead of paying for some designer coffee one or two mornings each month, stick that money away and drop it in your bucket of bucks. What’s that box of cartridges cost? Skip plinking once a month and stick that money in a bag, sock or small box in the corner of your gun safe.

Those who don’t belong to an organized gun club, or attend a monthly gun show, can turn the bucket into your personal piggy bank. You might be surprised how quickly these little donations accumulate. Throw in loose change every day. Pennies, nickels, and dimes suddenly become dollars. If you receive change for any purchase, a quart of milk or a gallon of motor oil, empty your pockets soon as you get home and put the money in your personal bucket.

For example, I habitually save quarters. Get some paper roll tubes from the local bank or credit union. It doesn’t take much time to discover you’ve saved up $10 worth of quarters. After a couple of months, you might have $20 or $30 worth; maybe more if they’re dropped in a jar on a shelf. Multiply that by the amount of money one might collect from your pals at the gun club who are coached to do likewise, and pretty soon it’s a tidy sum. It may not seem important, but it can become part of a larger amount subsequently donated to your favorite group engaging in legal actions.

There are several worthy groups, including the NRA, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Firearms Policy Coalition and so forth. State-level groups include the Oregon Firearms Federation, Florida Carry, Massachusetts Gun Owners Action League, California Rifle & Pistol Association, Illinois State Rifle Association and so forth. All of these groups are currently involved in at least one court action, and they would be grateful for any help they can get.

Way back in my youth, a local city councilman said something that has stuck with me through the decades: “The thing a conservative is most conservative about is a dollar bill.”

The other side knows this. With funding from millionaires, billionaires and other wealthy elitists, the gun prohibition movement is rather well-financed. They can easily outspend you if your side doesn’t have money set aside.

Many such organizations actually learned from groups like the NRA, the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, Mule Deer Foundation, Safari Club International, Ducks Unlimited and others who hold annual fund-raising dinners and auctions. However, instead of buying wildlife habitat or doing other beneficial projects, the gun control crowd uses its money to pay lobbyists, lease buses for group trips to the state capital and even advertising. Their recreation is making you miserable.

Using The PRINCIPLE

 

If they can do it, so can you, and you have the better motive. They’re trying to destroy the Bill of Rights, while you’re working to protect it.

Why is this so important now? In case you hadn’t noticed, the gun prohibition lobby and their allies in state legislatures and Congress are engaged in a war of attrition. They pass legislation they know won’t pass a legal challenge, but they also know fighting it will cost the Second Amendment community small fortunes in legal fees.

This was the underlying strategy when cities began suing gun companies more than two decades ago. It’s still the strategy — though they will never admit it — to pass laws in various states defying the principles set down by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 2022 Bruen ruling. It costs money to fight these battles, especially when lower court judges do their best to find gray areas to things that seem black and white to gun owners.

We cannot often fight back as individuals, but we can pool our resources and put up a good fight with our allies — and using the “Bucket of Bucks” approach is one good way.

When I spoke a few months ago at a political gathering, I asked for a show of hands from people who might belong to a local gun club. When they did, they learned their assignment for the weekend was to go to the local hardware store and purchase a metal or plastic pail, write on it “Bucket of Bucks,” and start collecting funds. If even half of those folks followed through, it was a small victory.

I’m okay with small victories. It’s what grassroots action is all about — and it’s at the grassroots level where this fight may eventually be won.

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