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The Martini cadet Rifle & making it a modern target rifle

Birmingham Small Arms (BSA) Martini Cadet
Birmingham Small Arms (BSA) Martini Cadet, Unit Marked, Australian Contract, Blue 25” - Single Shot Falling Block Rifle MFD 1909-1939 C&R - Picture 7
Now back in the good old days. When Americans were allowed to buy guns that came from over the seas. (Pre 1968)
A lot of tired old guns from the western World s arsenals came over here. Some were just great and some well not so great.
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The Martini Cadet was one of the better ones to come to our shores. They originally were made in the Uk and then sent to the Australian. So that their youngsters could learn to shoot properly.Related image
So after the unpleasantries with the Empire of Japan were finally over.
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It was decided to retire them and recoup some hard dollars from them.
Sadly they ate for their diet a caliber .310 Cadet round that was increasingly harder and harder to find. So they were advertised with the information that the 32-20 round would fit and be safe to fire.
As the .310 Cadet round is very similar to the .32-20 cartridge with the main difference being the .310 shoots outside lubricated bullets.
But the guns accuracy suffered from this difference.But that was not the truth and all the truth.
 
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As it was a case of close but no cigar time. I have heard that a lot of folks had some really bad experiences with this mismatch of ammo.
So what to do? Well a lot of folks then pulled the barrel from them and put in barrels of various calibers. Like the 22LR, the 38 Special / 357 Magnum and even a few brave souls in 44 magnum.
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Now myself. I was able to buy the action at Lock Stock & Barrel Investment for a decent price.Birmingham Small Arms Company B.S.A. BSA Martini Henry Cadet - Single Shot Rifle Receiver Only N.S.W Contract - Picture 2
Birmingham Small Arms Company B.S.A. BSA Martini Henry Cadet - Single Shot Rifle Receiver Only N.S.W Contract - Picture 3
Birmingham Small Arms Company B.S.A. BSA Martini Henry Cadet - Single Shot Rifle Receiver Only N.S.W Contract - Picture 5
Birmingham Small Arms Company B.S.A. BSA Martini Henry Cadet - Single Shot Rifle Receiver Only N.S.W Contract - Picture 7
Birmingham Small Arms Company B.S.A. BSA Martini Henry Cadet - Single Shot Rifle Receiver Only N.S.W Contract - Picture 8
Then I started looking around and found out the following.
That is an aftermarket for parts for this gun. Like for example I found out that a SMLE rear stock will after a fitting. Will work on a Martini.
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Also there are outfits that do sell 9mm rifle blank rifle barrels on the internet. For example Green Mountain.
http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/20x-1-9mm-gunsmith-edition-raw-blank-1-10-4140/
Also it is possible to find a forestock at various places. Like at MACON GUNSTOCKS LLC
Martini single shot rifle stocks  Martini single shot rifle stocks
Now all I have to do is find the cash. Did I mention that I have a Donation Paypal button lately?
Hopefully more on this project later on!
Grumpy
PS Here is some other stuff I found out

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BSA Small Action Martini Rifles

BSA Small Action Martini Rifles
The world famous BSA Martini rifles were manufactured from 1909 until phased out in 1955 when the last 12/15 was shipped. The International models were introduced in 1950 and phased out by 1986. Internationals were greatly improved for .22 target work, although the original models were far more versatile for conversion to other calibers.
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Model 4 (Australian Pattern)

60,000 small action martini rifles were produced for the Australian government as training rifles in .310 Rook caliber.
Serial numbers of the commercial rifles began just under 9,000 in 1909, and ended in 1939 with the high 59,000 range. In 1947, serials were restarted at P60,000 (Model 12/15) and ended with the model in the low P76,000 range. No martini rifles were produced from November, 1915 until July 1919 because of the war. Production was again halted in October, 1939, and didn’t resume until July, 1947 after the rifle was reconfigured as the 12/15.
The BSA small action martini came in several configurations, but the most commonly found are the Cadet model, as sold to Australia for training rifles, and the standard martini, used in nearly all of the target and sporting rifles. The standard actions are improved over the Cadet models in the following ways:

1. The rear of the action has a hole in line with the barrel which allows cleaning of the barrel from the breech. 2. The action tang is drilled and tapped for a receiver peep sight; Parker-Hale No. 7 or 7A target sight, or BSA No. 8 folding tang sight (which came in 5 different heights). 3. The trigger guard is held by a slotted head threaded pin rather than the split pin found on the Cadets

This appears to be a Model 9

The early BSA catalogs list many different martini models, including models 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, and 12/15. Incidently, the models 1, 2 & 3 were bolt action. None of BSA martini rifles were marked with the model number, so we have to use our best judgement to classify them. I’ve condensed the model descriptions to the most common (see below).

According to a pre-1920 BSA catalog, “B.S.A. rifles are consistently capable, in the hands of a good shot, of grouping within a 2-inch circle at 100 yards, or a 4-inch circle at 200 yards. B.S.A. .22 Target Rifles are not allowed to leave the factory unless they conform to a very high standard based on these performances.” Many barrels were relined by Parker-Hale or A.G. Parker in England, and guaranteed to be as accurate (or more accurate) as the original bore. I personally have found this to be true. An original A.G. Parker brochure on “Pakerifling” from the 1930’s states: TO-DAY a ‘PARKERIFLED’ barrel is comparable to the finest Match Barrel. Constant research has produced the most suitable and hard wearing grade of Swedish Sandvik Steel from which the tubes are drawn.” “‘PARKERIFLED’ BARRELS SET THE PRESENT DAY STANDARD OF ACCURACY, a 2in CIRCLE AT 100 YARDS. CLOSE SHOOTING IS GUARANTEED. THE ‘PARKERIFLED’ BARREL SHOOTS BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL,” IS NO UNCOMMON REMARK.

BSA Small Action Martini rifles

Model 12.

The Model 12 weighs about 8 lbs. and has a 29″ barrel with 1″ diameter at the breech, tapering to 3/4″ at the muzzle. Thinwall or thickwall actions. Heavier than the model 6 & 13, these work well for hunting and informal target shooting, as well as general plinking. I’ve sold many for silhouette rifles. A few are found with the takedown feature, and occasionally they are found in centerfire (.300 Rook). Straight grip stock wwith a half length beavertail forend. These come with either a target style, tang mounted, peep sight (Parker-Hale 7 or 7A) or a barel mounted ladder sight. They were manufactured from about 1909 about 1940, with serial numbers under 55,000. The Model 8 is essentially the same, but with the shorter 25″ barrel. Note: Some barrels may be relined.
For availability and prices, visit my Martini Sales List (Click Here)
For more information on the Model 12, Click Here (U.K. N.R.A. HISTORIC ARMS RESOURCE CENTRE)


Model 6 & 13.

Models 6 & 13 are essentially light sporting/target rifles. Weight is about 6 – 7 lbs. and the lightest we have found. These have a barrel about 25″ long, 7/8″ diameter at the breech, and a pencil taper to 5/8″ at the muzzle. Actions may be thinwall (like the Cadet), thickwall, or rebated (thickwall at breech, thinwall at stock). Straight grip stock with a lightweight forend. A few are found with the take-down feature, and a few are seen in .300 Rook centerfire. They come with either a target style rear peep sight (Parker-Hale 7 or 7A), or a barrel mounted open ‘v’ or ladder sight. Very few are found. They appear to have been manufactured between 1909 and 1939. Serial numbers are mixed with other models and are found in the 9,000 to the high 59,000 range. A few were made with an “R” prefix in the R10,000 – R13,000 serial range. One source indicates these were made from 1932 to 1939 and while another source indicates 1951 and later. Note: Some barrels may be relined.
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For more information Models 6, Click Here (U.K. N.R.A. HISTORIC ARMS RESOURCE CENTRE)
For more information Models 13, Click Here (U.K. N.R.A. HISTORIC ARMS RESOURCE CENTRE)
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Model 12/15.

The Model 12/15 is a target model which weighs about 10 lbs. It comes with a full pistol- grip buttstock with cheekpiece, and a 3/4 length target forend. Some examples were stocked with Italian walnut and may be plain or have outstanding figure (see above). It’s equipped with target sights; tang mounted peep rear sight (Parker-Hale 7 or 7A) and tube front sight with replaceable sight insert. Barrels run about 29″ long with 1″ at the breech and 3/4″ at the muzzle. Occasionally a bull barrel is found, but are hard to find. No centerfires have been seen – all examined have been .22 rimfire. This model was manufactured after the model 15 (see below). Introduced in 1947, it is the final model of the small action martini rifles. The last example was shipped in 1955. Serial numbers have a ‘P’ prefix, and are found in the P60,000 to P76,000 serial range. A very few (prewar?) examples are found without the “P” prefix in the 50,000 and early 60,000 serial range, although these might be gunsmith or factory conversions. It appears only about 16,000 were manufactured. Note: Some barrels may be relined.
For availability and prices, visit my Martini Sales List (Click Here)
For more information on the Model 12/15, Click Here (U.K. N.R.A. HISTORIC ARMS RESOURCE CENTRE)

Model 15.

 

The Model 15 is similar to the model 12/15 except for the receiver, which is factory dovetailed for a special rear peep sight (BSA No. 30). The sight slides up and down in the receiver dovetail.

Like most BSA martini rifles, it has a hole in the rear of the receiver which allows the barrel to be cleaned from the breech end. Like the Model 12/15, it has a pistol grip buttstock with cheekpiece. Most other specifications are similar to the 12/15. No centerfire examples have been found. Serial numbers are mixed in with other models in the 45,000 to high 59,000 serial range, and not very many were made. Note: Some barrels may be relined.

Two special models are seen within the Model 15 group:
The “Centurian“, which was specially selected to deliver 1 1/2” groups from the factory, and is identified by a “flat top file-cut rib (on the barrel) which eliminates light reflections.”
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Model 15 – Special Stock.

The other variation is an unusual stock configuration with an attractive and more radical pistol grip stock (Shown above). Very few found.
For availability and prices, visit my Martini Sales List (Click Here)
For more information about the Model 15, Click Here (U.K. N.R.A. HISTORIC ARMS RESOURCE CENTRE)

BSA International.

 For availability and prices, visit my Martini Sales List (Click Here)

For more information, Mark I & II (U.K. N.R.A. HISTORIC ARMS RESOURCE CENTRE) Mark III (U.K. N.R.A. HISTORIC ARMS RESOURCE CENTRE) Mark IV & V (U.K. N.R.A. HISTORIC ARMS RESOURCE CENTRE)

Credits
Most of the above information is from original BSA catalogs and advertisements, and examining many BSA martini rifles.
My thanks to Mr. John Knibbs for his history of BSA published in 2002, “The Golden Century“, and to
Mr. Terrance O’Hanlon Smith, who’s U.K. N.R.A. Historic Arms Resource website is referenced above.

A Classic Custom Small Action .22rf BSA Martini
Case Hardened Receiver

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This custom rifle was built from a Model 12/15 barreled action by
Dominick Pisano San Antonio, Texas. email: dpisano@earthlink.net
Phone 210-696-7621

 

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A Winchester Model 1894 Saddle Ring Carbine, Type 2 Variant 1, Blued, 20 Lever Action Rifle, MFD 1896, Antique .38-55 Win.

A Real Piece of the Old West

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Winchester Repeating Arms Company - Model 1894 Saddle Ring Carbine, Type 2 Variant 1, Blued, 20”   Lever Action Rifle, MFD 1896, Antique - Picture 10

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25-20 Stevens Single Shot Rifle with a 44 Frame

STEVEN'S 25-20 - 25-20 STEVENS SINGLE SHOT 44 FRAME MARBLES REAR SIGHT AND NEAT - Picture 5

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Remington 700 Adl 222 .222 Rem.

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External Hammer Coach Shotgun Under $300 – Century Arms JW 2000 Review by PAUL HELINSKI


http://www.centuryarms.com/century/century-firearms/shotguns
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With some things in life, the hard way is actually better. That’s the way I have always felt about side by side shotguns with external hammers. Going back to the late 1980s when I was one of the first big boom of new SASS shooters (I am 19811), I always preferred to shoot hammer guns to the other options out there.
Of course I also used to shoot Colt Pattersons back when they were legal as well (these days you can’t shoot them because they only have 5 rounds).
For me, when it came to cowboy shooting, I was there to enjoy myself, and really to shoot against myself, not everyone else. And I always came in last, regardless of the class in which I was shooting.
This past year Century Arms figured out a way to get a classic externally hammered coach sized side by side into the hands of American shooters for under $300. As you can see from the video, the gun has a bunch of ugly markings on it, but it works great.
If you are reading this, it could be that you clicked on the SHOT Show video that I did with Cimarron just a few weeks ago. They have been selling a cleaned up version of this gun for some time, for a lot more money.
Now they have an even cleaner and more dainty hammer gun from Pakistan. This gun is not in the class of the fit and finish of those guns, but again, it does work. For $300, that’s really all that matters, and they are available from retailers right now.
I noted in the video that even if you aren’t into the cowboy thing, this gun would make a great trappers gun or guide gun, just to take with you in case game should appear.
You could carry it either the with the safety off and the hammers down, or hammers back with the safety on. With bird shot in one side and a slug in the other, you’d be really for anything, in a very small investment that you won’t mind if it gets dinged here and there.
For cowboy shooting, I don’t see you winning any competitions with this gun, but if you loosen it up it probably won’t be inferior to the more expensive Cimarron gun, purely from a performance standpoint.
Visually, I guess you could get a local gunsmith to buff out the printing and reblue the barrels. I don’t know why they don’t force the Chinese to print less on the gun, and in a hidden location where possible. A black sharpie will probably make the gun tolerable at least. Overall it’s a good buy, and I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one if you are in the market for a hammer gun.

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A Mauser 98 DWM (Deutsch Waffen Und Munitions) – Karlsruhe Mod.1908 Brazil

What a neat looking national crest!

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The Most Current (of today) California Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale

Welcome to the Jungle!

As of January 1, 2001, no handgun may be manufactured within California, imported into California for sale, lent, given, kept for sale, or offered/exposed for sale unless that handgun model has passed firing, safety, and drop tests and is certified for sale in California by the Department of Justice. Private party transfers, curio/relic handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns are exempt from this requirement.
View list of handgun models whose status has changed recently:

All handguns listed are approved with or without night sights.
805 handguns found.

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Some more Gun Porn

I am always amazed on how many really great looking Guns are out there! I hope that you like my choices!
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Someday! A Astra Model Constable .22 LR Semi Pistol Copy Of Walther Famous Ppk in caliber .22 LR

This looks like a really fun plinking pistol to me.
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French / German Reparations P38, WWII in 9mm Luger

I have owned and shot quite a few of this fine Pistols. It use to be that they were quite common and reasonably cheap too. But sadly those days are long gone!


 

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