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The ongoing saga between the ATF and Q’s Honey Badger leaves a lot of people asking, “Why the Honey Badger?” For that question, we turned to Rick Vasquez, the former Acting Chief of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Firearms Technology Branch (FTB).
ATF Vet’s Take on Hunting the Honey Badger
Vasquez is uniquely positioned to comment on some of the most incendiary issues affecting American gun owners today. He currently serves as a consultant through RickVasquezfirearms.com. He provides testimony in accordance with statutes and regulations overseeing firearms as well as professional expertise in National Firearms Act/Gun Control Act issues, firearms importation, weapons training, and advanced gunsmith and evaluation services. When gun problems require serious horsepower, Vasquez is the man.
Rick’s Resume
During his 21 years in the Marine Corps, Vasquez served as Chief Instructor at the precision weapons shop at Quantico, Virginia. He fielded the M16A2 service rifle for the 6th Marine Regiment and coordinated the Marines’ development and implementation of the Barrett M82 .50-caliber anti-materiel rifle. He also served as a Marine Security Guard Detachment Commander in three different embassies including Moscow. Vasquez later worked for the State Department Diplomatic Security Service.
Vasquez subsequently transferred to the ATF Firearms Technology Branch, reviewing guns and gear to adjudicate compliance with firearms law. He eventually headed the FTB, crafting determinations of profound importance to the firearms industry. His insights into the inner workings of the ATF are literally unparalleled.
Vasquez subsequently transferred to the ATF Firearms Technology Branch, reviewing guns and gear to adjudicate compliance with firearms law. He eventually headed the FTB, crafting determinations of profound importance to the firearms industry. His insights into the inner workings of the ATF are literally unparalleled.
Vasquez is the archetypal warrior curmudgeon, a self-described “crotchety old guy,” and ever the Marine. He is the cumulative product of countless hard places and countless hard things. He is also a patriot. Vasquez’s devoted his entire adult life to service.
Vasquez isn’t overly burdened about hurting people’s feelings either. He prefers the right thing over political correctness. His observations on politics, guns, and freedom are mesmerizing.
Why the Q Honey Badger?
There are around four million Pistol Stabilizing Braces in circulation today. However, the ATF recently declared that the Q Honey Badger, with its 7-inch barrel and sliding PSB, was actually a Short-Barreled Rifle (SBR). Not only does an SBR require fingerprints, a $200 transfer tax, and a six- to nine-month wait, possession of an unregistered SBR is a felony good for up to 10 years in federal prison.
The current legal morass surrounding PSBs is a ghastly mess. We’ll explore that later. There are no published criteria discriminating PSB-equipped pistols from SBRs. Absent codified definitions the industry cannot determine if they are in compliance. My question to Vasquez was why Q, and why now? Why did the ATF single out the Honey Badger?
“When the first arm braces were approved there was not a great deal of thought put into their approval,” he said. “The letters are on the internet and can be reviewed. The original letter says in essence that they were approved as an arm brace but without specific criteria for features. There was no features test applied. The restrictive features being applied today are evolutionary in an effort at restricting the arm brace.”
No Rhyme or Reason
The FTB analyzes each product via some ethereal “looks like a stock to me”-sort of assessment. The width of the brace, the length of pull, and the orientation of the brace relative to the sights all fold in. This is actually the third time the ATF has administratively reclassified a brace-equipped gun as an NFA item. One case involved Fostech, while another concerned Kalashnikov.
“This opinion letter written on Q’s arm brace is a curious anomaly,” Vasquez said. “ATF opinion letters are typically lengthy, wordy, and spell out the features that are good and, if installed, bad. Now ATF’s response for a standard criterion on an arm brace is that they are not authorized by DOJ to provide criteria. Yet we have at least three seizures of arm braces described as stocks via ‘unwritten criteria.’”
Bully Tactics
There has been one prosecution of someone accused of redesigning a PSB-equipped pistol into an SBR. Vasquez says that the ATF singles out smaller companies because of their relative lack of resources.
“They used an arm brace that lacked the FTISB seal of approval,” Vasquez explained. “What is that seal of approval? Even though they are made as an arm brace and meet the known criteria of an arm brace, there is no regulation requiring ATF approval.”
Companies like SIG, HK, and Springfield Armory have deep pockets and armies of lawyers. Q, Fostech, and Kalashnikov, however, lack the assets to support a protracted and expensive legal fight.
The decision-makers at the ATF know this. These small companies represent low-hanging fruit. A victory against Fostech or Q better positions the ATF to move against larger stuff later. Vasquez believes these latest efforts reflect deliberate attempts to break these smaller companies and build precedents.
“Given the lack of standards if ATF can win a case on the arm brace then they can cite that court case in follow-on cases,” Vasquez said.
Political Motivations
Everything turns on the upcoming election. Entrenched ATF policy-makers with a hardline agenda are positioned to enter a Biden Presidency launching a new regulatory offensive. The White House is pushing back, but Trump is in a political fight for his life. An outgoing President’s power is profoundly diminished.
In fact, the curious case against the Q Honey Badger took yet another turn recently. After an uproar from the firearm industry, the ATF curiously sent another letter to Q’s representative. It informs the ATF backed off the Cease & Desist, taking 60 days to look into the matter further. That 60-day mark would conveniently push a decision to after the election … convenient indeed.
Q announced it would not resume manufacturer of the Honey Badger Pistol at this time. There remains a high level of distrust toward ATF’s motives.
“We believe this 60-day suspension is an effort to put manufacturers, distributors, and consumers at ease, and to postpone the issue pas the presidential election in hopes that a new administration will take a different view,” Q wrote in a response. “Using licensees as political pawns is unbecoming of a regulatory agency and ignoring the underlying evaluation in this letter is simply irresponsible.
Q will not succumb to this level of irresponsibility. Therefore, without further clarification from ATF on their evaluation, we will not continue manufacturing the Honey Badger Pistol.”
ATF Radio Silence
Inquiries from companies like Q and SB Tactical have thus far not been addressed. The ATF meets requests for technical guidance with deafening silence. Vasquez feels that this intransigence reflects intentional stalling.”
“How difficult is it to provide criteria? The ATF interprets the regulations and statutes driven by political leanings,” Vasquez said. “If those making firearm decisions are anti-gun then opinions are written accordingly. This isn’t supposed to be ATF’s method of operation yet here we are.”
The ATF currently appears to be hedging its bets. By dragging its feet until after the election the agency can adapt to changing tides. For American gun owners, however, these tides might very well be portents of a coming hurricane.
“Instruction and direction from this DOJ will simply disappear if the administration loses the election,” Vasquez said. “At that point the antigun agenda espoused by many in the ATF leadership will take off like a rocket.”
————————————————————————————– Yeah I know that this is really old but I thought it very interesting none the less. It just confirms my cynical view of the Government and the right to have a gun. Grumpy
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It was honestly the best time of my life. We were pretty much broke, and med school kept me sinfully busy. However, the kids were young, and life was pure. The children are all grown now, and I do miss them so. But I cherish memories of shooting a rimfire single action revolver together.
The Colt Frontier Scout Rimfire Single Action Revolver
My son was maybe 10, and he had a little money saved up from birthdays and Christmas. I had a Ruger Single Six pistol I could live without. The Single Six was a great shooter, but with its adjustable sights and convertible cylinder, it didn’t exactly look the part of the classic Western sixgun. Thusly equipped, my son and I struck out for the local gun show looking for trouble.
The Colt Frontier Scout was well-used but equally well-cared for. It sat among dozens of other pre-owned handguns on a table helmed by a local gun nerd. My son and I studied it closely and retired to the corner of the show to scheme.
Once we had an accord, we approached the gent about doing a deal. At the end of the day, my Ruger and a little bit of my son’s cash made the nifty little Colt ours. Back at the house, we pawed over it. The next free weekend, we took it out to the rural farm for a test drive. The end result was some of the finest memories a guy could ever want.
The Origins
Sam Colt was the only show in town for the first few years of the 19th Century revolver revolution. His radical designs were patented, and he defended those patents with near-religious zeal. While Colonel Sam was the consummate marketer and a comparably adroit showman, he was also a bit conceited.
When one of his machinists named Rollin White approached him about equipping a Colt revolver with a bored-through cylinder to accept metallic cartridges, Old Sam sent him on his way with remonstrations. He believed the Colt revolver was perfect and in no need of an upgrade.
White took a pair of Colt cap and ball cylinders that had been rejected from the production line, cut off the ends, and welded them together. The shooting version took a bit more effort, but the spark of genius was clearly there.
After Colonel Colt gave White his walking papers, the young man took his idea to Horace Smith and Daniel Wesson. Sam Colt’s narcissism set his revolver production back more than a decade.
Finally, in 1869, the Rollin White patent expired, and Colt was free to maneuver. Sam put his two most accomplished gun designers, Charles Brinckerhoff and William Mason, to work designing a new cartridge-fed revolver for the Army pistol trials of 1872.
The first production gun rolled off the line in 1873 as the “New Model Army Metallic Cartridge Revolving Pistol.”
Serial number 1 was thought lost forever until it turned up in a barn in Nashua, New Hampshire, soon after the turn of the century.
The M1873 – Colt Single Action Army
The gun was called the M1873 or the Colt Single Action Army revolver. However, in 1874 a Colt distributor named Benjamin Kittridge in Cincinnati coined the term “Peacemaker” as a marketing ploy. The end result became an integral part of Americana. The Peacemaker went on sale to American civilians two months after the revolver trials.
Those first Peacemakers were chambered for the .45 Long Colt cartridge. This straight-walled, rimmed round was immensely powerful by the standards of the day. Pushing a 255-grain hard lead bullet atop a charge of 40 grains of finely-ground black powder, the .45 LC became a recognized manstopper.
The Single Action Army handily took the Army revolver trials and served until 1892, when it was supplanted by the .38-caliber Colt M1892.
Architecture
The Single Action Army revolver was available with barrel lengths ranging from 4.75 through 7.5 inches in at least five major chamberings. However, there’s something weird about the basic Colt revolver design. That graceful arching grip has no finger grooves or stippling yet still seems to fit the human form better than any Information Age plastic pistol.
The massive hammer looks like it would catch on absolutely everything, yet it doesn’t. Thumbing the hammer back manually on the draw is a natural exercise. If you do this slowly, you can discern four distinct clicks. The inimitable sound it makes when done quickly has launched many a Hollywood career.
The hammer includes the firing pin as an integral component. While it was likely safe to carry the gun with the hammer down over a loaded chamber, most sensible gunmen didn’t. You could keep a handy dollar bill rolled tightly and stuffed into the cylinder or just leave it empty. If the tactical situation allowed, the astute shootist could drop one last round in place before stepping out into the street for a showdown.
The sights consist of a generous front blade that corresponds to a groove cut into the top strap. There is a loading gate on the right side of the gun. To load or unload the weapon, you place the hammer at half cock, open the gate and cycle the cylinder by hand.
The manual ejector is spring-loaded and rides underneath the barrel. Running the gun seems a bit tedious by modern standards. However, it was lightyears ahead of the same exercise undertaken with a cap-and-ball revolver back in the day.
A Manageable Round
Recoil in .45 Long Colt is present without being unpleasant, and every copy I have ever fired shot straight and true. On several occasions, I had my kids’ college buddies out to shoot machine guns.
Invariably at the end of the day, the stutterguns would fall silent while the kids would burn through whatever .45 LC ammo I had handy for my Italian Uberti Peacemaker replica.
Even if you load your own, .45 LC is a big, heavy cartridge that is component intensive. Factory ammo cost a fortune even before the recent ammo drought. Back in 1957, Colt found the answer to mitigate the costs of running the gun.
Frontier Scout
Ruger introduced the .22-caliber Single-Six in 1953. With Western movies occupying every theater in the country, Colt realized that a rimfire version of the classic Peacemaker would reach an untapped market. In 1957, they launched the Colt Frontier Scout with a price of $49.50. That’s about $456 in today’s money.
Those early Frontier Scouts featured a lightweight aluminum die-cast frame with a one-piece backstrap and triggerguard. The remainder of the pistol was blued steel. Colt called the combination their “duo-tone finish.” The grips were black synthetic. The barrels were cut on the same machinery used on the venerable Python, so performance was outstanding.
Unlike the original centerfire Colt Peacemaker, the Frontier Scout used a transfer bar action for added safety. Various combinations of finishes, grips, and frame materials came and went until 1986, when production was discontinued. Commemorative versions included two-cylinder .22 Magnum variants as well as a 9.5-inch barrel Buntline pistol.
Our Frontier Scout rolled off the lines in 1968 and features a blued finish and walnut stocks. When appreciated alongside my recent production Colt Peacemaker in .45 LC, the family resemblance is obvious. The 1968-era workmanship is flawless, and the gun offers the same inimitable aura in a package that is much cheaper to run.
Trigger Time
While I have myself never tried heroin, I suspect it is just a little bit like this. You can retire to your favorite shooting spot with the Colt Frontier Scout and a brick of .22 bullets and shoot stuff until hunger draws you home.
In fact, it is simply breathtaking to appreciate the pile of empty cases that remain after an afternoon at the range with this thing. Recoil is non-existent, and the gun shoots unnaturally straight. Additionally, it rides in the same holster rig that typically carries my centerfire version. In short, it offers most all of the cool at a fraction of the price.
My son and I whiled away countless hours ventilating disused beverage cans with our jointly owned Frontier Scout. Now nearly two decades after its acquisition, the gun is waiting on my son to settle someplace long enough to take it home.
I am a bit better financed these days and may scrounge up another copy for myself. It is a tangible connection to some simply delightful times.
Ruger Wrangler
The Colt Frontier Scout has been out of production for some thirty-five years. Vintage copies can be found at places like GunBroker, but they are typically fairly tired. With guns that are in decent shape prices seem to range from $600 to around a grand.
Up until recently, the American shooter looking for a top-flight rimfire Peacemaker at a good price was just out of luck. However, in April 2019, Ruger offered up the solution.
The Ruger Wrangler is a current-production facsimile of the classic Colt Peacemaker offered at a very reasonable price. Ruger makes extensive use of zinc and aluminum castings for the Wrangler to help keep costs low.
The gun features a 4.6-inch barrel and comes in 12 different colors. They include—I’m not making this up—one that is called “Crushed Orchid.” The MSRP is a paltry $250. I found mine on special via an online venue NIB at substantially less than that.
The Wrangler uses a transfer bar ignition system and some metal injection-molded internal parts. However, given the piddly recoil impulse of the .22 rimfire cartridge, the gun should still outlive your grandchildren.
The final MSRP is less than half that of the corresponding Single-Six, and the Wrangler is more fun than a barrel of monkeys. It is the Peacemaker simulator for the Information Age.