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A Question of Quarterbores by Philip Massaro

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It really wasn’t all that long ago when 6.5mms were a rarity, as the .264 Winchester Magnum had faded into near-obscurity, and the .260 Remington had just seen the light of day.

Yes, there was a fan base for the 6.5×55, but most folks who dipped below the .270 Winchester were reaching for one of the 6mms, and as often as not one of the .25-caliber cartridges.

Dating back to the 19th century the .25s have been known for speed, as well as for their light recoil levels. But of late, a minor change to the rifling twist rate has brought the quarter bores to a new level, offering an unprecedented level of performance. Let’s follow the .25s throughout history, revisiting some old friends, meeting some new ones and digging up some ghosts.

25-20 WCF

.25-20 WCF and .25-35 WCF

Winchester gave us a pair of rimmed .25s in the 1890s, built for its excellent lever guns. Both began life as blackpowder cartridges, but made the transition to the smokeless era. The diminutive .25-20 WCF was released in the Winchester Model 1892 rifle and used an 86-grain bullet at 1,460 fps. The .25-20 WCF is simply a .32-20 WCF case necked down to .25-caliber, but Winchester didn’t actually do it first—Marlin beat them to it by a couple years, but Winchester just took the name and ran with it.

25-35 WCF

Nonetheless, the little .25-20 was used for smaller game species, plinking and was a favorite of trappers as well. This little cartridge has the distinction of having taken the Jordan buck, though I’ll be the first to agree that the .25-20 is not my first choice as a deer cartridge.

The .25-35 WCF is larger, being based on the (then new) .30-30 Winchester necked down to .25-caliber, and using a 117-grain bullet at a muzzle velocity of just under 2,400 fps. Like the .30-30 Winchester, the .25-35 Winchester was designed from the time of its release to operate with smokeless powder. Delivering considerably more power than its significantly smaller sibling, the .25-35 WCF is a decent deer cartridge to this day. You can find ammunition still produced by Winchester and Hornady, both with 117-grain bullets.

250 3000 Savage

.250-3000 Savage

Charles Newton designed this cartridge for Savage Arms in 1915, and it had the unique distinction of being the first commercial cartridge to break the 3,000 fps mark. Housed in the excellent Model 99 lever gun, the .250-3000 (also known as the 250 Savage) used a light-for-caliber 87-grain bullet to hit that velocity mark.

Now, the Sectional Density (SD) of an 87-grain bullet comes in at 0.188 (in comparison, the 117-grain bullets have an SD of just 0.253) and when looking at the construction of hunting projectiles over a century ago, you can easily understand how this combination didn’t exactly develop a reputation for deep penetration on larger game animals.

In fact, Newton himself highly recommended the 100-grain bullets for this cartridge, but Savage was bent on using the velocity as a marketing tool, and it certainly worked. That cartridge is a good choice for the whitetail hunter, as the recoil and report are very light, yet there is enough energy for clean, humane kills and enough velocity for a decent trajectory.

Based on a shortened .30-06 Springfield case, the .250-3000 uses its 26 ½-degree shoulder for headspacing, and is equally at home in a bolt rifle as it is in a lever gun which doesn’t use a tubular magazine. Sadly obscure today, the .250-3000 is still cool, especially if you can find one in that timeless Model 99.

257 Roberts

.257 Roberts

Ned Roberts was among the early 20th century wildcatters who modified military cartridges to differing bore diameters, and he took the 7×57 Mauser case, and necked it down to hold .257-inch bullets. That design floated around for over a decade, until in 1934 Remington made it a commercial offering, adding Ned’s surname to it.

The .257 Roberts—or ‘The Bob’ as it affectionately known—is a great cartridge for deer, pronghorn antelope and similar species, as it offers a bit more velocity than does the .250 Savage, while still offering a manageable recoil level for nearly any shooter.

The Bob offers a significant velocity increase over the .250 Savage—nearly 200 fps in all bullet weights—and is usually offered with the 117- and 120-grain bullets in factory offerings. Though the cartridge is not nearly as popular as it once was, a competent handloader can easily convert the readily available 7×57 Mauser brass into .257 Roberts brass to feed one of those classic rifles.

If you like the .25 bores, the Bob is a great choice. It’ll push the 117-grain bullet to 2,650 in its standard guise, and the +P variant will nearly hit the 2,800 fps mark. It’s a shame that the amount of new rifles has dwindled to nearly nothing.

257 Wby

.257 Weatherby Magnum

While the .300 Weatherby Magnum might be the most popular of the Weatherby cartridges, the .257 Weatherby Magnum was Roy’s personal favorite. Unlike the .300 Weatherby, which requires a magnum-length action like its .300 & .375 H&H forefathers, the .257 Weatherby was designed to function in a standard long-action rifle.

With a case length of 2.549 inches and a cartridge overall length of 3.209 inches, the .257 Weatherby Magnum comes in just a bit shorter than the .30-06 Springfield and its ilk. Using the H&H belt for headspacing, the .257 Weatherby Magnum has the signature double radius shoulder, which must’ve been pretty radical for 1944.

If anyone tested the limits of the .25-caliber cartridges, it was Mr. Weatherby; he used his quarterbore on a Cape buffalo bull. Roy lived to tell the tale, the buffalo bull did not. The .257 Weatherby is surely a speed demon—it’ll drive a 115-grain bullet to 3,500 fps, making it one of the fastest of the .25s out there. It isn’t easy on throats and barrels, and it isn’t cheap to shoot, but if speed is your game, this is a definite candidate.

25-06 Rem

.25-06 Remington

If Big Green has one claim to fame—and there are many—it is how well they have legitimized wildcat cartridges. From the .22-250 to the .257 Roberts to the .35 Whelen, they’ve made sure some of the greatest designs were commercially available.

The .25-06 Remington is no exception. The design can trace its roots back to Charles Newton’s A.O. Neider’s efforts in the early 20th century, but it stayed in wildcat form for over half a century. Remington’s 1969 release used the 2.494-inch case of the .30-06 (as opposed to the 2.54-inch case of the .270 Winchester, held over from the .30-03 design), and a 17-degree shoulder for headspace duties.

Cartridge overall length is a bit shorter than the .30-06, coming in at 3.250 inches. The cartridge makes perfect sense, as in a pinch cases can be made from the ever-popular .30-06. Capable of sending a 117- or 120-grain bullet at a velocity in excess of 3,000 fps, the .25-06 might not be a magnum cartridge, but has the power to deliver a very respectable trajectory.

The cartridge was very popular for the lighter big game species, until the 6.5 Creedmoor began to eat the lunch of all those medium-bore cartridges. It was, at one time, the definitive pronghorn antelope cartridge, but it seems to have gone out of favor lately. That’s a shame, as the cartridge is wonderfully accurate, easy in the shoulder, and hell on deer and game of similar size. Of the lot, this might be my favorite .25-caliber.

25 WSSM

.25 Winchester Super Short Magnum

*sigh* If ever a series of cartridges was given up for dead almost immediately, it was Winchester’s WSSM line. Banking on the popularity of the WSM line which became extremely popular at the turn of the century, Winchester went even further with the seriously squat Super Short Magnum line, comprised of the .25 WSSM (released in 2004), .243 WSSM and .223 WSSM.

There were a good number of hunters who bought the .25 WSSM and enjoyed its performance, but when (inexplicably) the ammunition supplies dried up, panicked. Driving a 120-grain bullet to just shy of 3,000 fps, the .25 WSSM comes in a rifle with an extremely short bolt throw. With the 0.535-inch base diameter (probably based in the common H&H bolt face diameter) the .25 WSSM uses its 30-degree shoulder for headspacing, though the rimless design assuredly shows the same relationship to the .404 Jeffery that the entire WSM line shows.

The ballistic performance level is roughly on par with the .25-06 Remington. For reasons I neither understand nor can explain, Winchester seemingly abandoned production of ammunition for the WSSM line. As the owner of a custom handloaded ammunition company, I will attest to the fact that a decade ago, a full 25 percent of inquiries were for this cartridge. The design isn’t bad in any way, it’s just come down to a lack of ammunition availability; that said Winchester once again offers ammo for the .25 WSSM in the Super X line.

25 Creedmoor

.25 Creedmoor

Here we venture into one of the modern ‘revisionist’ quarterbores, using a tighter-than-normal twist rate to utilize heavier bullets than are normally associated with the .25-caliber. The latest in Hornady’s Creedmoor line—which includes the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6mm Creedmoor and 22 Creedmoor—the .25 Creedmoor offers bullets weighing up to 134 grains, Recognized as a dual-purpose hunting/target shooting cartridge, the .25 Creedmoor will offer a 112-grain copper monometal CX bullet at 3,150 fps, giving an advantage over similar weights in the .25-06 Remington, a 128-grain ELD-X at 2,850 fps, and for the target crowd, a 134-grain ELD Match at 2,800 fps—with the latter bullet offering a G1 B.C. value of 0.645 and magnum-level trajectory.

Sitting comfortably between the 6mm Creedmoor and 6.5 Creedmoor—offering a better B.C. than either, and less recoil than the Six-Five—the .25 Creedmoor just might catch on among hunters, but only time will tell if it has the goods to unseat its older brother. The 1:8 twist rate stabilizes those heavier bullets, and that makes all the difference when comparing the modern .25s to those benchmark cartridges of the 20th century.

25 Wby RPM

.25 Weatherby RPM

The latest release among the quarterbores, Weatherby’s newest in the Rebated Precision Magnum also uses a faster twist rate to stabilize higher B.C. bullets. Offering a larger case than that of the .25 Creedmoor, the .25 Weatherby RPM is housed in Weatherby’s lighter six-lug action, making a great cartridge/rifle combination for those wanting a lightweight choice for the backcountry. Using the rebated rim we’ve seen in the .284 Winchester, and a steep 35-degree shoulder for headspacing, the .25 Weatherby RPM will push a 133-grain Berger Elite Hunter to a muzzle velocity of 3,000 fps. Maintaining the long-action maximum cartridge length of 3.34 inches, the .25 RPM has nearly an inch of seating room for those bullets with the longer ogives.

Is it as fast as the .257 Weatherby Magnum? No, but the smaller body diameter makes it easier to get an extra cartridge in the magazine or keep weight to a minimum, and the speed of the .25 Weatherby RPM is more than sufficient to make those long-range shots at ranges this side of sanity. Weatherby offers the Barnes LRX and Hornady SST—both at 117 grains—at 3,150 fps, and the 107-grain Hammer monometal at 3,350 fps, so there are plenty of choices for all sorts of big-game hunting.

25-06

So, does the latest crop of quarterbores change your mind about the capabilities of the bore diameter? Or do you still feel there are better tools for hunting elk, moose and other large game? I think the newest cartridges will only enhance the performance of the .25-calibers, making shots on the longer side a bit easier by offering better wind deflection values, and retaining more energy downrange.

I still feel an animal the size of a bull elk or bull moose warrants a bigger bore diameter, and a heavier bullet, though I am painfully aware that many are taken each year by cartridges as small as the .243 Winchester. If you play in both the target and hunting worlds, the new designs should definitely have some appeal to you, as those bullets between 128- and 134-grains have a very impressive B.C. value, and assuredly extend the capabilities of the .25-caliber in general.

If—like me—your shots beyond 250 yards are a rarity, at best, perhaps the .25-06 Remington offers a sufficient level for your hunting needs, or maybe one of the mild .30s offers a more universal appeal. I will offer this: with the two latest cartridges in the quarterbore lineup, the 6.5mm cartridges might have just lost their advantage.

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The Beretta Model 1934: A Piece of History You Can Still Experience by Tim Stetzer

There’s something special about military surplus firearms. Unlike modern reproductions, these guns have a story to tell. They were built for war or police service, carried by people who relied on them, and somehow survived long enough to find their way into the hands of today’s collectors. Every holster mark and every worn edge hints at a history we’ll probably never know.

They have a soul that modern new guns don’t. I have a running list of older guns I’d love to own, and the Beretta Model 1934 has been on it for years. Thanks to a banging deal at AIM Surplus this is an easy one to check off of that list.

The Beretta 1934 Origin

Originally adopted by the Italian military in 1934, the compact Beretta pistol served throughout World War II and earned a reputation for reliability and durability. It was basically a slightly beefed up version of the Model 1931 chambered in 9mm Corto, better known in the United States as .380 ACP. During the war it was used by Italy, Germany, Romania, and to lesser degree Finland.

The Model 1934 was a simple blowback design that was a favorite trophy amongst Allied troops. The 1934 remained in production long after the war ended. It continued to serve with Italian military units as well as police organizations including the Polizia di Stato, Carabinieri, and Guardia di Finanza into the 1980’s. As a result, many of the surplus pistols reaching American shores today aren’t wartime bring-backs at all, but postwar police pistols that spent decades riding in duty holsters before finally being retired.

A Surprisingly Affordable Collectible

My example came from AIM Surplus, which currently lists Very Good condition pistols for $239.99. The company also offers less expensive X Grade pistols that show additional cosmetic wear but are described as mechanically functional. For a firearm with this much history behind it, I found the price surprisingly reasonable.

My pistol is a 1948 production gun that arrived in very good condition. Finish wear appears to be around 80 percent, the lockup is tight, and the bore retains strong, well-defined rifling. That’s impressive for a service pistol that’s approaching its eightieth birthday. The pistol is discreetly import stamped underneath the trigger guard.

As often happens with surplus firearms, buying the pistol was only the beginning. I found myself digging through my Beretta reference books to learn more about its history. After brushing up on that I hunted down two original spare magazines on eBay after AIM sold out, and located a postwar green canvas flap holster to complete the package. Women like to accessorize their outfits; I like to accessorize my guns.

Built for Service

The Model 1934 was made at a time when military sidearms were expected to be rugged, simple, and dependable. At the time, the European school of thought was that handguns were more a badge of rank than a fighting tool, so the compact size and low-powered round were considered completely adequate for military use.

The 1934 is an all-steel blowback pistol with a 3.5-inch barrel and weighs 1.54 pounds. It uses the open slide that Beretta became famous for and that you still see in the 92 series pistols today. The 1934 has a blued finish and comes with black plastic grips. There were a few grip variations used over the years. A lanyard ring is also mounted on the bottom-left portion of the frame.

The magazine capacity is 7 rounds, and it uses a heel-mounted magazine release. Sights are fixed and tiny by today’s standards. The trigger is single action only and acceptable without being exceptional.

The rotating safety on the left side of the frame allows for cocked and locked carry, although I’m not sure if Beretta ever recommended that. It works fine, but you need to break your firing grip to engage or disengage it. You can also use the safety to hold the slide open manually. The short tang makes hammer bite a real thing if your grip rides too high, even with my medium-sized hands.

None of those characteristics surprised me. In fact, they’re part of the pistol’s character. This wasn’t designed to compete with today’s concealed carry handguns. It was designed nearly ninety years ago as a dependable military sidearm, and that’s exactly what it feels like. Even it is a little small by American standards.

On the Range

History is fascinating, but I didn’t buy this Beretta simply to admire it in the gun safe. I wanted to know what it was like to actually shoot. Over the course of my range sessions, I fired CCI Blazer FMJ and Federal Punch ammunition purchased from AIM Surplus, along with Remington jacketed hollow points that I already had on hand.
I suspected the Remington load would feed okay because of its rounded bullet profile. I wasn’t nearly as confident about the more aggressive Federal Punch ammunition.

As it turned out, the little Beretta wasn’t picky. It fed all three loads flawlessly without a single malfunction. That’s noteworthy considering the pistol was designed decades before modern defensive hollow points became common.

Accuracy proved to be about what I expected from a military pistol of this vintage. My pistol consistently grouped between 3½ and 4 inches at 15 yards, with groups opening to roughly pie plate size at 25 yards.

The Remington hollow points edged out the other two loads for accuracy, although not by a dramatic margin. It also prints consistently low and left. Some of that may be due to the heavy trigger which averaged a touch over 10 pounds on my Lyman trigger pull gauge.

Recoil was surprisingly soft thanks to the all steel construction and the guide rod below the barrel allowing for a lower bore access. Small autos aren’t always fun to shoot but the 1934 was generally pleasant. Once I adjusted my grip to minimize the hammer bite at least.

Reloads are sticky with the heel-mounted mag release. The 1934 locks open on an empty magazine, but the slide drops when you pull the mag out. You are working against the spring of the heel-mounted mag release when you’re both pulling an empty mag and inserting a fresh one. You certainly aren’t going to eject a magazine by accident with one of these, though. Rapid reloads were not something that European militaries of the time, or European police departments later, were too concerned about.

More Than a Defensive Pistol

Could someone still carry a Beretta Model 1934 for personal protection? Probably. Mine proved completely reliable with both ball ammunition and modern hollow points, and its practical accuracy is certainly adequate for the distances at which these kind of handguns are typically used. But I don’t think that’s why someone should buy one.

Modern defensive pistols offer better sights, higher capacity, and improved ergonomics They’re generally a lot more comfortable to shoot too. There’s no doubt that a modern .380 like the Ruger Security 380, Springfield Hellcat, or Smith & Wesson Bodyguard 2.0 are better tools for everyday carry. The Beretta offers something different though, the opportunity to own and experience a genuine piece of history.

Affordable, Shootable History

Instead of sitting in a museum, this pistol can still be taken to the range, loaded, fired, and appreciated. Just like generations of Italian soldiers and police officers have done. There’s a world of difference between simply owning a historic firearm and actually experiencing one. The Beretta Model 1934 allows you to do both. The price is reasonable enough that you shouldn’t be afraid to shoot it, as you might with a historic piece that costs thousands of dollars.

Beretta reportedly designed these pistols with a service life approaching one hundred years. Whether that’s entirely accurate or not, my 1948 example gives every indication of getting there. The lockup remains tight, the rifling is excellent, and after nearly eight decades it still functions with the same reliability its designers intended. With reasonable care, I see no reason this little pistol won’t still be around for my grandchildren to appreciate someday.

At only $239.99 from AIM Surplus, the Beretta Model 1934 is an affordable opportunity to preserve, shoot, and enjoy a genuine piece of firearms history. To me, that’s worth far more than simply looking at one in a museum display case.

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