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How Many Self-Defense Shots Are Too Many? By Peter Suciu

Editor’s Note: This article is presented for discussion only and does not constitute legal advice. It is not a substitute for qualified legal counsel. Every legal matter is unique, and minor variations in the facts may result in substantially different conclusions. Additionally, laws differ by state and local jurisdiction and are subject to change.

In self-defense and law enforcement training, the standard rule is to fire to stop an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm, and to cease firing the exact moment that specific threat stops. Moreover, the use of force must stop immediately when the assailant surrenders, falls incapacitated, or retreats and no longer presents an active danger.

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Range drills build the mechanics of shooting, but the question of how many rounds are justified in a self-defense situation is one that is not simple to answer. Therein lies the question: what is reasonable force?

That seems very cut and dry, but legal experts warn it can leave much room for interpretation, which leads to the following question: How many shots are too many?

Criminal defense attorney Joey Hamby of Attorneys For Freedom Law Firm and “Attorneys On Retainer” (AOR) compared that question to what young lawyers are taught on how to cross-examine a witness in court. “Don’t ask one question too many,” to which the answer is that you might not know the answer until it could hurt your case. The point is that when you are succeeding in a trial, you want to stop talking.

When you are using a firearm in self-defense, you want to stop firing at the comparable point when the threat has been neutralized.

The Threat is Neutralized

Hamby explained that many self-defense trainers will tell you that you should continue shooting until the threat is neutralized.

“I agree with that statement, and it came from the principles of reasonableness, imminence, and proportionality,” Hamby noted, but said there are three questions that one needs to ask.

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There is no magic number of shots in a self-defense encounter. One round may be one too many in some cases, while several may be entirely justified in others.

“Is it reasonable to believe that the attacker lying on the ground is a threat of death or serious bodily harm? Is that person an imminent, or immediate, threat? Is it a proportionate use of force to shoot that person? It might surprise some people that the answer to that could be yes,” Hamby continued.

If an attack has the means to seriously injure someone, then that individual may be justified in firing again. By contrast, if the answer is “no,” then it could be much harder in court to prove the actions were justified.

There is also no “magic” number of shots.

Depending on the circumstances, one shot could be one too many, whereas multiple shots fired could be completely justified. However, this is unique from case to case, and prosecutors and law enforcement may see it differently.

man defending his home a night with a Springfield Armory pistol
Being in your own home doesn’t automatically change the legal math on how many shots are justified. The same questions of reasonableness, imminence, and proportionality still apply.

“This is where getting the best self-defense attorneys and experts is critical. Prosecutors and police officers [may] lack the training and the experience to evaluate these situations and understand the dynamics,” Hamby explained. “A prosecutor may think that the number of bullet wounds to the attacker shows that someone is using an excessive amount of force.”

There Are Variables to Consider

In a self-defense case, there are endless variables that will come into play, and that can begin with the caliber of the self-defense firearms to the size of the individual.

“There are many variables at play when using deadly force in self-defense. All of those variables, including the caliber of the weapon, need to be viewed through the same legal principles: Reasonableness, Imminence, and Proportionality,” Hamby explained.

man leaning out of pickup truck to engage a deadly threat with a Springfield Armory handgun
Every self-defense case turns on its own facts. Conclusions from one incident can’t simply be transferred to another without understanding how the specific circumstances change the analysis.

“The caliber alone does not control the analysis. If one, well-placed shot from a .22 pistol neutralizes the threat, then you should not continue firing. If three shots from a .44 Magnum still have not neutralized the threat, then it is probably reasonable and proportionate to continue firing until the threat is neutralized,” Hamby emphasized.

It may also seem easy to consider the ways in which the setting can affect the analysis. As an example, it may be much harder to determine if the threat is neutralized in a low-light environment, and that may well affect the number of shots fired.

Still, all of these situations are very fact-specific.

“Each case has to be analyzed separately, based on the facts of that case. You can’t just transfer general principles from one case to another without understanding how the specific facts affect those principles,” Hamby noted.

In addition, the specific location of your actions can matter in a self-defense case. However, simply being in one’s own home may not impact the legality of the number of shots. Then again, there may be situations where it does.

Home Defense Long Guns vs. Handguns

The same legal principles of reasonableness, imminence, and proportionality hold regardless of whether someone opts to use a handgun, rifle, or shotgun as their primary home defense firearm.

Yet, Hamby warned there are reasons why some firearms could present some issues based on appearance and then question whether it was actually proportional in nature.

a woman with a Springfield Armory pistol uses a flashlight to illuminate a threat during a home defense scenario
A low-light environment can make it much harder to judge whether a threat has ended. That difficulty can legitimately affect how many rounds a defender fires.

“It is possible that police officers, prosecutors, judges, or jurors may have a bias or preconceived idea about guns that may look ‘scary’ … . These types of beliefs may drive an investigation or even charges,” suggested Hamby.

“This is why getting the right defense team in place is vital. Here at Attorneys For Freedom, our focus is on self-defense cases. We are very familiar with these types of biases, and we know how to defuse them,” he added. “We can explain to a skeptical officer or prosecutor how a rifle or shotgun may well be the best tool for the job. It may well increase accuracy, which means it is safer for innocent bystanders. It may also be more effective with fewer shots fired … . These concepts have to be understood and have to be part of your defense team’s knowledge base.”

Fear Factor Comes Into Play

There are also some significant misunderstandings with the general public, such as a widely held belief that one can’t or shouldn’t bring a gun to a knife fight, or a fist fight. Such a misconception is understandable, as it is somewhat linked to the principle of proportionality. However, that is a misapplication of the principle of proportionality.

man pointing a gun during a defensive shooting training scenario
A real test is whether an attacker is capable of causing death or serious bodily injury, regardless of what weapon they’re holding. The use of a firearm in your defense may be justified.

“The correct analysis is whether the attacker can cause death or serious bodily injury,” explained Hamby. “One easy example is where a very small, physically frail, 85-year-old in a wheelchair is being attacked by a large 20-year-old. Can that attacker seriously injure, or even kill the victim with just fists? Of course. And the 85-year-old may have no options except a firearm.

“Whether the attacker is large or small, armed with a rifle, shotgun, pistol, knife, rock, broken bottle, or just fists, the same questions have to be asked, and the same analysis has to be completed,” Hamby added.

“Unfortunately, many people are misinformed by movies and video games, and they believe that you can easily see when a bullet strikes a person. That is simply not real life. It is the rare exception to be able to tell … ,” Hamby acknowledged. “It is very common for a person to fire multiple times and to have no clear recollection of how many times they fired, and to have no idea of how many times they actually hit … . The main visual indicator you will normally have is when the threat is neutralized.”

The Bottom Line

The most important takeaway is that there is no “approved” number of shots because every self-defense incident has its own facts and its own unique issues. Whether one fires once or 10 times, the actions must be based on sound reasoning, in response to an imminent threat, and proportionate to the threat.

“Once the threat is neutralized,” said Hamby, “Further shots create a risk that you can be faced with criminal and civil liability.”

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Chris Eger Discontinued: Ruger Confirms End of Line for Some Classic Models

Ruger officials confirmed industry chatter this week that it would immediately stop producing four models, while it will halt production of several others at the end of the year.

On Tuesday, the company announced changes to several current-generation product families as part of its ongoing Ruger 2030 strategy.

“These decisions reflect our review of consumer demand, evolving market preferences, manufacturing complexity and the long-term profitability of each product family,” Abbey Clary, Ruger’s director of media, advertising and public relations, told Guns.com in an email. “The goal is to focus our resources on the products consumers want most today while creating capacity for future product development and manufacturing modernization.”

Production of four revolver lines – some going back to 1958 – would be suspended, effective immediately:

A larger group of products are nearing suspension, with their final planned production runs through the remainder of 2026.

They include:

  • SR1911
  • LC Carbine
  • PC Charger
  • PC Carbine
  • LC Charger
  • Redhawk
  • Super Redhawk
  • Blackhawk
  • Super Blackhawk
  • Single-Series revolvers
  • Vaquero
  • Ruger No. 1 (My Son is going to be really pissed about this!!!!!!!!!)
  • 77-Series rifles
  • Hawkeye
  • Ruger Precision Rifle.

What’s left?

For those keeping track at home, this leaves the company with the Mini-14 rifle line, Ruger 10/22s, the Ruger American series, and its Harrier series ARs produced in the former Anderson factory in Kentucky.

Pistols retained include the LCP series, the Security 380 and Security 9, the modular RXM, MAX-9, the Ruger 57, 22 Charger, and Mark IV rimfire line.

Its wheel gun catalog will shrink to just the rimfire Wrangler line and possibly the Super GP100, which the release didn’t specifically mention.

The Ruger Red Label III shotgun, built under contract by the Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing Company, recently just won “Best New Shotgun” at the 2026 NASGW-POMA Caliber Awards and will remain in the catalog.

Notably, the company seems to be wholly exiting the crowded 1911 market, one it has inhabited for 15 years.

Also gone would seem to be any single-action centerfire revolvers, a space that Ruger has occupied since 1955 when the original “three-screw flattop” Blackhawk debuted.

Comeback chances?

Company officials were careful to point out that lines put to bed can always come back. For example, the Bill Ruger-designed No. 1 has been in and out of production several times since its 1967 debut.

“This does not necessarily mean these product families are permanently discontinued,” said Clary.

Further, if/when they return, they could come back in a new, updated format, with a familiar name upcycled on a new gun.

For instance, the Ruger Blackhawk first came out in 1955, then the Super Blackhawk augmented it four years later, while protected-sight models first appeared in 1962. The two-pin transfer-bar New Model Blackhawk arrived in 1973, followed by the New Model Super Blackhawk in 1974.

“We recognize how important these platforms are to Ruger’s heritage and to our customers,” said Clary. “In many cases, we see opportunities to bring them forward through new designs, improved features, and modern manufacturing methods. We expect some of these names and product families to return in new forms in the future, but do not have specific product plans or reintroduction timelines at this time.”

It should also be pointed out that Ruger recently rebooted the old Glenfield brand with a modified Ruger American Rifle leading the charge as the value-driven Glenfield Model A. Could some recently discontinued Ruger models make a comeback under the Glenfield banner? Stranger things have happened.

 

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An armed private citizen chased down a school shooter at a Bend, Oregon, elementary school on Thursday afternoon, shot him inside the building, and ended the attack before officers had cleared their vehicles.

Three children and a teacher are still dead. Two more — a seven-year-old child and a 54-year-old teacher — are in critical condition at St. Charles Medical Center. The suspect, a 16-year-old Bend resident with a long gun, was killed where he fell. What the armed citizen prevented is the counterfactual nobody will put a number on.

What Happened

Bend Police Chief Mike Krantz laid out the timeline at a Thursday press conference, as KTVZ reported in its officials’ update. The first 911 call came in at 12:59 p.m. A caller in a vehicle reported that someone with a long gun had fired at them multiple times. Dispatch then took dozens more calls in quick succession.

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The Race in Texas for Senate seat

James Talarico wants a seat in the U.S. Senate, and the National Rifle Association is making sure Texas gun owners know what he wants to do with it: ban commonly owned firearms and standard-capacity magazines.

The NRA has released a new 30-second ad targeting the Democrat’s support for so-called “assault weapons” bans. Titled “Yes Absolutely,” the spot uses Talarico’s own words to put his gun-control positions before voters ahead of the November 3 midterm elections.

The Texas ad is part of the NRA’s broader multi-million-dollar investment in congressional races nationwide, aimed at protecting and expanding pro-gun majorities in the House and Senate.

Talarico’s Own Words Make the Case

According to the NRA’s announcement, the ad features a video in which Talarico endorsed banning “assault weapons” and commonly owned magazines. It pairs that footage with a more recent NewsNation appearance.

Asked whether an “assault weapons” ban remained “on the table,” Talarico answered: “Absolutely.”

For Texans who own the firearms and magazines targeted by those proposals, that answer leaves little room for comforting campaign spin. Talarico supports federal restrictions on arms that law-abiding Americans choose for defending themselves and their families.

“James Talarico has been coming for our guns for years,” the ad states. “He would outlaw the most popular firearms in Texas.”

The NRA has dubbed Talarico “Beto 2.0,” invoking another Texas Democrat whose gun-control agenda became a defining feature of his political identity. Talarico’s continued embrace of firearm bans gives gun owners ample reason to take the comparison seriously.

The Second Amendment protects the people’s right to keep and bear arms. It does not give politicians authority to reduce that right to a list of firearms they find politically acceptable.

NRA Makes Texas Senate Race a Priority

NRA-PVF Chairman John Commerford said Talarico’s support for a federal ban should disqualify him in the eyes of Texas gun owners.

“By vowing to vote for a so-called assault weapons ban if elected to the Senate, James Talarico kicked a hornet’s nest. Nearly half of Texas households have guns, and millions of law-abiding Texans own the very rifles and standard-capacity magazines he would ban. Gun owners will decide this election—and Talarico just gave them another reason to vote.”

The NRA’s release also points to Talarico’s legislative record, including his vote against constitutional carry and support for stricter gun-control measures.

Taken together, those positions show opposition to both carrying firearms without a government permission slip and owning categories of arms targeted by gun-ban advocates. Texas voters deserve to weigh that record when considering who will represent them in Washington.

Gun Bus Tour Backs Advertising With Grassroots Outreach

The NRA is pairing its advertising campaign with its Gun Bus battleground tour and traditional get-out-the-vote operation.

The organization says the bus will make multiple Texas stops, giving members and gun owners opportunities to learn about candidates’ records, receive issue updates, and participate in local voter outreach.

The broader operation includes millions of NRA Orange Cards, targeted text messages, and door-knocking efforts across Texas and other battleground states.

Commerford said the organization is combining advertising with “boots-on-the-ground outreach” to mobilize gun owners while control of the Senate hangs in the balance.

Talarico has supplied the central issue himself. Asked whether banning commonly owned firearms remains an option, he said “Absolutely.” Gun owners should take him at his word. Electing a senator who supports those bans would give Washington’s gun-control bloc another vote against their rights. Texans have every reason to remember that when they cast their ballots on November 3.

Related: Talarico Pushes the ‘Assault Weapons’ Hoax Despite the Facts


About Duncan Johnson:

Duncan Johnson is a lifelong firearms enthusiast and unwavering defender of the Second Amendment—where “shall not be infringed” means exactly what it says. A graduate of George Mason University, he enjoys competing in local USPSA and multi-gun competitions whenever he’s not covering the latest in gun rights and firearm policy. Duncan is a regular contributor and editor-in-chief for AmmoLand News and is responsible for AmmoLand’s daily gun-rights reporting and industry coverage.Duncan Johnson

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